B16da9

iTrader: (7)

Yes, but you're a "Car person" the people I asked were regular none car enthusiast.

EZZ

This is actually a big consideration for me. The last car definitely convinced many of my friends to get other brands (BMW, Infiniti, Audi). This looks mean and aggressive...something way more suited to the car I wanna drive

EthanV

Exactly! 50k for an engine which is the heart of the car not even make you woww factor!

spwolf

whats wrong with 2GR-FSE engine? Nothing.

You guys want IS-F i guess... but for 50k :-)

SW17LS

Put your Corolla into a turn though and see which is more satisfying to drive.

Nobody *wants* a stiff ride, but generally flatter, more precise handling comes with the tradeoff of a stiffer ride. Thats the beauty of the AVS suspension, in Normal my GS rides incredibly well, better I feel than my ES did, but in Sport S+ mode you get a stiffer, more sport oriented ride.

If you want a smooth and quiet ride, and handling is unimportant enough for you to have the complaint that your Corolla rides better than your IS, you should never have bought the IS. Thats the sort of consumer the ES is designed for.

spwolf

IS has good dumping, at least non IS F-Sport does... so it never crashes over.

But again, it is something that should be solved on 3IS. It is not just AVS, regular models now have less flex which has let them ease up suspension and still deliver better handling. They have been doing this with every new model coming out from Toyota.

EthanV

Who said 50k for IS F...I didn't.. IS F is IS F .... Why not wanting better engine than 2GR FSE. I could have said other way like you can watch an old tv for 10 years of course it's still working but it's old ... Newer engine of course it will be nicer isn't it. Dont you want nicer TV lol? You dont care but we care! Own to each opinion!

two2tone

iTrader: (10)

I'd have to agree with you... I was thinking the same thing... Why spend 50k , when you can buy and used IS350 for a fraction of that price with same amount of power... nobody wants the see the same engine on different gen... 1IS had 2jz , 2IS has 2gr, 3IS should have something new without having to shell out gazillion on ISF... 335i will have upgrades... 3IS engine is definately dissapointing engine-wise

spwolf

i get it, you want to get told it is new engine so you feel better :-).

otherwise it is excellent engine and with 8AT, not sure whats better out there, especially stock.

happy1977

So the AVS makes the ride like the ES or better? That's good news. And no, the IS was just a loaner from the dealer. Coz I love this new IS and would at least like to have the smooth ride.

natnut

A 3IS engine will easily outlast a 335i engine and unless you modify the 335i engine, (thereby increasing wear and tear and further reducing engine life), an IS350 will match a 335i 0-100 or 1/4 mile.

1111GS

Looks real nice in person, the frontal view in particular.... This, the GS, LF, LF Sport got a lot of attention. to Lexus.

Xanadu350

I wonder if this means all we will see are photos from members here showing off their new IS in black or nebula grey. LOL

I wish they would offer that steele blue LFA color

SW17LS

The suspension is definitely firmer than the ES, and even in comfort mode you can feel that firmness when going over bumps, speed bumps at low speeds. However, at speed the GS glides along so smoothly and solidly, thats where I think it definitely rides better than the ES. So, low speed cushiness I give the ES the edge, but on the road driving both highway and around town I think the GS rides better, the solidity and glasslike ride reminds me a lot of the LS.

EthanV

NO! You dont ever get it? Think again ok! Nicer engine means more torque, high rev and more horse power. Nicer engine didn't mean to have somebody tell you to make you feel better. Thats just what you think and like to yourself not us..ANyway just ignore what I said cause you never get it. ;-)