Putting in an order Monday....
#46
Lexus Fanatic
A Lexus has never been a "bells and whistles" car. They have always been behind in number of features.
To me substance is way more important than looks or gizmos I'll use for a month and never touch again. What makes me the most happy about my GS is the quality, and the way it rides, handles, and how refined it feels on the road. You don't get that in something like an Optima, and it just doesn't occur to me that it doesn't have power folding mirrors or a power trunk.
The Optima is good looking, but to say ot gets you "excited"...I just don't get that. I mean, if I were looking at a Camry I'd seriously look at one...but comparing one to an IS or a GS is just silly IMHO. Its like saying you want to eat at McDonalds instead of Mortons because it has a playplace. Yeah...Mortons doesn't have a playplace...but if you appreciate quality food thats more important.
To me substance is way more important than looks or gizmos I'll use for a month and never touch again. What makes me the most happy about my GS is the quality, and the way it rides, handles, and how refined it feels on the road. You don't get that in something like an Optima, and it just doesn't occur to me that it doesn't have power folding mirrors or a power trunk.
The Optima is good looking, but to say ot gets you "excited"...I just don't get that. I mean, if I were looking at a Camry I'd seriously look at one...but comparing one to an IS or a GS is just silly IMHO. Its like saying you want to eat at McDonalds instead of Mortons because it has a playplace. Yeah...Mortons doesn't have a playplace...but if you appreciate quality food thats more important.
#47
A Lexus has never been a "bells and whistles" car. They have always been behind in number of features.
To me substance is way more important than looks or gizmos I'll use for a month and never touch again. What makes me the most happy about my GS is the quality, and the way it rides, handles, and how refined it feels on the road. You don't get that in something like an Optima, and it just doesn't occur to me that it doesn't have power folding mirrors or a power trunk.
The Optima is good looking, but to say ot gets you "excited"...I just don't get that. I mean, if I were looking at a Camry I'd seriously look at one...but comparing one to an IS or a GS is just silly IMHO. Its like saying you want to eat at McDonalds instead of Mortons because it has a playplace. Yeah...Mortons doesn't have a playplace...but if you appreciate quality food thats more important.
To me substance is way more important than looks or gizmos I'll use for a month and never touch again. What makes me the most happy about my GS is the quality, and the way it rides, handles, and how refined it feels on the road. You don't get that in something like an Optima, and it just doesn't occur to me that it doesn't have power folding mirrors or a power trunk.
The Optima is good looking, but to say ot gets you "excited"...I just don't get that. I mean, if I were looking at a Camry I'd seriously look at one...but comparing one to an IS or a GS is just silly IMHO. Its like saying you want to eat at McDonalds instead of Mortons because it has a playplace. Yeah...Mortons doesn't have a playplace...but if you appreciate quality food thats more important.
#48
Lexus Fanatic
Quality is not only found in BMW, Lexus, Mercedes etc. In fact many say Mercedes is not a quality product any longer. There are a ton of fun to drive cars out there. Subaru wrx sti? i think brand image is most important in your car buying decision . Nothing wrong with that but there are many fun cars to drive.
If all I cared about was brand I would have a BMW or Mercedes, not a Lexus.
A WRX STi is a completely different sort of car, its not comparable, and it isn't the sort of car I would have any interest in driving. I'm just not into that boy racer type of thing, talk about a car that really sacrifices the 99% of your driving for the 1%.
When you park next to an Optima and its mirrors are folded in and yours gets busted off by a careless @sshole then maybe you will appreciate some features like this in a car fully loaded for less than 1/2 the cost of a GS
Not to mention, if you buy a Kia Optima and sell it in 2 years, or buy a Lexus IS or GS and sell it in 2 years, you won't have saved as much as you think choosing the Kia due to their terrible resale value.
Last edited by SW17LS; 05-07-13 at 07:58 PM.
#49
The Kia Optima is a great-looking car, designed by one of the ex-designers from Audi. I haven't driven one, but I understand it also has a really nice interior. If that is what makes you happy go for it!
#50
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Quality is not only found in BMW, Lexus, Mercedes etc. In fact many say Mercedes is not a quality product any longer. There are a ton of fun to drive cars out there. Subaru wrx sti? i think brand image is most important in your car buying decision . Nothing wrong with that but there are many fun cars to drive. Everything else on the road is not a Buick like ride. Now, if driving a premium brand helps bring the whole package together for ya then that is okay. When you park next to an Optima and its mirrors are folded in and yours gets busted off by a careless @sshole then maybe you will appreciate some features like this in a car fully loaded for less than 1/2 the cost of a GS
I mean really don't go there, power folding mirrors and rear heated seats don't make a luxury car. This is not a slight of the Optima it is great for its class, anyone thinking its somehow a value vs a real luxury car is only fooling themselves.
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Absolutely. Its only a value vs a real luxury car to someone who does not understand what makes a luxury car worth the additional money, or to someone to whom those attributes are not important. Seiko makes watches that look a whole lot like a Rolex...as an example...but they are not a replacement for the quality and precision of a Rolex, and someone who understands and appreciates quality can immediately feel the difference.
#53
Absolutely. Its only a value vs a real luxury car to someone who does not understand what makes a luxury car worth the additional money, or to someone to whom those attributes are not important. Seiko makes watches that look a whole lot like a Rolex...as an example...but they are not a replacement for the quality and precision of a Rolex, and someone who understands and appreciates quality can immediately feel the difference.
#54
Lexus Fanatic
And many that buy a Rolex do it for status not because they know anything about the watch itself just llike many buy a luxury car for the same reasons.
http://www.optimaforums.com
Plenty of people there who will discuss how foolish we are with you.
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