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Old 02-13-13 | 04:44 PM
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They do this and they can count me out, I do not want a 40k+ 4 cylinder.
Old 02-13-13 | 04:50 PM
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Plenty of people buy the 328, and the C240, the A4...all 4cyl.

Remember the 528 is a 4cyl now too, as is the base Jaguar XF, the base A6...

4cyls in $40k+ cars are happening in a big way, so if you're a buyer in this segment, I'm not sure what else you could buy that wouldn't be a 4cyl, unless you step up to the higher engine offerings.

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Old 02-13-13 | 06:26 PM
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is250 v6 is much better than any i4+boost.

smooth, refined, linear, great mileage.
Old 02-13-13 | 06:29 PM
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Hopefully it will come with a manual transmission.
Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Lexus is done. No more manuals.
yup. with the advent of such advanced, intelligent (and shiftable) automatic transmissions, manuals are just not that 'attractive".
Old 02-13-13 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
Plenty of people buy the 328, and the C240, the A4...all 4cyl.

Remember the 528 is a 4cyl now too, as is the base Jaguar XF, the base A6...

4cyls in $40k+ cars are happening in a big way, so if you're a buyer in this segment, I'm not sure what else you could buy that wouldn't be a 4cyl, unless you step up to the higher engine offerings.
Not sure what I will do but there is a reason I don't drive any of those cars. I will do something different.
Old 02-13-13 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
Plenty of people buy the 328, and the C240, the A4...all 4cyl.

Remember the 528 is a 4cyl now too, as is the base Jaguar XF, the base A6...

4cyls in $40k+ cars are happening in a big way, so if you're a buyer in this segment, I'm not sure what else you could buy that wouldn't be a 4cyl, unless you step up to the higher engine offerings.
There is S-class with 4 cylinders, but it's totally crap performance wise.
Old 02-15-13 | 12:56 AM
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I'd never buy a 4-cylinder luxury car. If I had a 40k budget and 4 cylinder was all there was in Luxury vehicles, I'd save a few thousand and buy a v6 accord or maxima instead.
Old 02-15-13 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chikoo
yup. with the advent of such advanced, intelligent (and shiftable) automatic transmissions, manuals are just not that 'attractive".
That and manual transmissions appeal to maybe 1% of the car buying population. They're a vocal minority online.

The iconic BMW M5 is already going to stop producing manual transmissions next year I believe.

Ferrari doesn't produce manuals anymore - period. Porsche is probably the last bastion of the manual transmission, but I suspect even they'll get with the times eventually.

If driving a car is analogous to watching television at home, I liken a manual transmission to changing channels by physically getting out of your chair to press channel +/- on the cable box sitting above the T.V.

A paddle shifting variant is analogous to having a remote control (you still have just as much control over which channel (gear) you want, only now you're eliminating useless, wasteful movements like getting out of your chair to change channels).

An automatic shifting variant is like having a TV that will select channels for you (nothing like this exists in real life but I figured I'd throw it in to complete the analogy).

Paddle shifting DCT > manual transmission > automatic transmission
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haha was just about to start this thread someone got the story before me .....in my opinion i say yes to the Turbocharged Four-Cylinder Engine !!!
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Originally Posted by cino
There is S-class with 4 cylinders, but it's totally crap performance wise.
But thats a huge 5klb S class...

I've driven the 4cyl 3 series and 5 series, and let me tell you the performance is good, the engines are light and handling is excellent. If you're saying you would "never buy a 4cyl 3, C, A4, or IS and would buy an Accord or Camry instead...thats your loss. Way more to a car than the number of cylinders in the engine.

I wouldn't buy the 4cyl 5, but I would buy the 4 cyl 3.
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
But thats a huge 5klb S class...

I've driven the 4cyl 3 series and 5 series, and let me tell you the performance is good, the engines are light and handling is excellent. If you're saying you would "never buy a 4cyl 3, C, A4, or IS and would buy an Accord or Camry instead...thats your loss. Way more to a car than the number of cylinders in the engine.

I wouldn't buy the 4cyl 5, but I would buy the 4 cyl 3.
I never say I wouldn't buy a 4 cylinder entry level sedan, I just prefer bigger displacement more cylinder. It's fine on IS or GS, but I don't think it's fine on LS, at least not without electric motor assist. I don't like the idea of traditional force induction either, hopefully, electric turbo will make its way to production cars soon.
Old 02-15-13 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
But thats a huge 5klb S class...

I've driven the 4cyl 3 series and 5 series, and let me tell you the performance is good, the engines are light and handling is excellent. If you're saying you would "never buy a 4cyl 3, C, A4, or IS and would buy an Accord or Camry instead...thats your loss. Way more to a car than the number of cylinders in the engine.

I wouldn't buy the 4cyl 5, but I would buy the 4 cyl 3.
You'd have a point if my reason for not wanting a 4 cylinder engine is strictly for performance reasons alone. Based on what I look for in a vehicle, getting a V6 Accord over a 4 Cylinder 3 series isn't a loss.
Old 02-15-13 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramon
You'd have a point if my reason for not wanting a 4 cylinder engine is strictly for performance reasons alone. Based on what I look for in a vehicle, getting a V6 Accord over a 4 Cylinder 3 series isn't a loss.
That maybe true but you don't get a loaner car, the longer warranty period or the Lexus dealer amenities from a Honda dealer.
Old 02-15-13 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
That maybe true but you don't get a loaner car, the longer warranty period or the Lexus dealer amenities from a Honda dealer.
Can't argue with you there
Old 02-15-13 | 10:08 PM
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I wonder will these new engines with boost be able to be modified ala the Germans or with the typical uncrackable ECU. If it is the uncrackable ECU just keep more cylinders.


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