"Third time is a charm" -- great 3IS article/review
09-25-13 | 11:11 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Vroomin350 View Post
haha all the new owners who cant accept the mishaps of their new cars and all the previous owners who wont budge. Its ALL laughable to be honest and no one here should take anything personal.
Truth is, wether the 3IS is a great car or not, those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED. Don't take that personal either, but with a radio that has a mind of its own, plastics that scratch easier than paint, and same engines, there is NOTHING more than LOOKS.
Don't take "those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED." personal? You're a sour and petty human being for even posting bs like that. Don't take that personal okay? How does it feel to be driving a car that depreciated significantly when the 2014 came out and just about every reviewer states it's a dramatic improvement over the 2IS? Don't take that personal either to be honest. I have had zilch problems with my 3IS. I would've felt screwed if I bought a 2IS though. But don't take that personal either. I guarantee you that no BMW, Audi, Mercedes owner is looking at your 2IS with envy. But darn you could take that personal and I don't mean it that way so don't take it personal okay?
haha all the new owners who cant accept the mishaps of their new cars and all the previous owners who wont budge. Its ALL laughable to be honest and no one here should take anything personal.
Truth is, wether the 3IS is a great car or not, those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED. Don't take that personal either, but with a radio that has a mind of its own, plastics that scratch easier than paint, and same engines, there is NOTHING more than LOOKS.
Don't take "those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED." personal? You're a sour and petty human being for even posting bs like that. Don't take that personal okay? How does it feel to be driving a car that depreciated significantly when the 2014 came out and just about every reviewer states it's a dramatic improvement over the 2IS? Don't take that personal either to be honest. I have had zilch problems with my 3IS. I would've felt screwed if I bought a 2IS though. But don't take that personal either. I guarantee you that no BMW, Audi, Mercedes owner is looking at your 2IS with envy. But darn you could take that personal and I don't mean it that way so don't take it personal okay?
Last edited by Glashub; 09-25-13 at 11:22 AM.
09-25-13 | 11:20 AM
#32
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Lol. I have bad absolutely no issues with my car and it was picked up July 5th. My radio works perfect, and I have no issues with the screen it dash. There will always be a car here and there with issues. That doesn't mean we ALL got screwed.
There is always going to be haters everywhere. But I have thick skin.
There is always going to be haters everywhere. But I have thick skin.
09-25-13 | 11:20 AM
#33
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Don't take "those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED." personal? You're a sour and petty human being for even posting bs like that. How does it feel to be driving a car that is overwhelmingly bought by women? Don't take that personal okay? How does it feel to be driving a car that depreciated significantly when the 2014 came out and just about every reviewer states it's a dramatic improvement over the 2IS? Don't take that personal either to be honest. I have had zilch problems with my 3IS. I would've felt screwed if I bought a 2IS though. But don't take that personal either. I guarantee you that no BMW, Audi, Mercedes owner is looking at your limp wristed IS with envy. But darn you could take that personal and I don't mean it that way so don't take it personal okay?
09-25-13 | 11:29 AM
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No not at all. I'm just calling out someone for trolling and acting like a fool -- but don't take that personal. I find the 2IS to be too feminine looking and in fact here in LA it seems to be driven mostly by women and men with an alternative lifestyle -- wink, wink, nudge, nudge, if you know what I mean -- but again, don't take that personal. Just reporting what I see.
Last edited by Glashub; 09-25-13 at 11:39 AM.
09-25-13 | 11:49 AM
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No not at all. I'm just calling out someone for trolling and acting like a fool -- but don't take that personal. I find the 2IS to be too feminine looking and in fact here in LA it seems to be driven mostly by women and men with an alternative lifestyle -- wink, wink, nudge, nudge, if you know what I mean -- but again, don't take that personal. Just reporting what I see.
And it continues...
09-25-13 | 12:00 PM
#36
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I don't have one but a close friend does. To the contrary, I do think the 3IS IDEA is a great improvement over the 2IS. The way it was executed is the problem I have.
Once that Nav issue gets fixed, the plastic gets better (it will, too many issues already), and the heart transplants come in, THEN I'll make the switch. Truthfully the front of the car is hands down BEAUTIFUL.
I simply refuse to get first model year of anything, yes you are the "first" to have them, but at what cost?
Once that Nav issue gets fixed, the plastic gets better (it will, too many issues already), and the heart transplants come in, THEN I'll make the switch. Truthfully the front of the car is hands down BEAUTIFUL.
I simply refuse to get first model year of anything, yes you are the "first" to have them, but at what cost?
As an example, I have 2002 Acura TL-S which I believe was first year model and I still drive that with no issues. Best car I've owned so far but looking forward to my 3IS F Sport.
09-25-13 | 12:14 PM
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That's as of 2011 (2IS). I'm sure the 3IS will drive that female preference ratio down since it is a much more masculine looking car imo.
Don't take that personal though okay?
09-25-13 | 12:19 PM
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With Lexus (44.2 percent) being the only luxury brand (preferred by women) with over 40 percent.in the top 20 - See more at: http://blog.truecar.com/2012/04/23/m....08PXoToj.dpuf
That's as of 2011 (2IS). I'm sure the 3IS will drive that female preference ratio down since it is a much more masculine looking car imo.
Don't take that personal though okay?
That's as of 2011 (2IS). I'm sure the 3IS will drive that female preference ratio down since it is a much more masculine looking car imo.
Don't take that personal though okay?
I like 2IS, you like 3IS. So, we have different opinions on how Lexus should or should not be presenting their product.
Why are you acting so infantile? Grow up.
End of story.
09-25-13 | 06:36 PM
#39
Finally, someone who sees what the 3IS REALLY is and not falling in the trap to love it just because it's a new model!
I say again, the 3IS is better than 2IS in handling. But, it stops there. Options lost, interior downgrade (did you see the pictures above?), loss of touchscreen and now you're fooling around with a mouse. Come on Lexus. Why do you want a upside-down staircase as your center console too?
The 2IS is superior OVERALL even though the 3IS beats it in handling. Otherwise, it's not even a new engine (as we all know). Heck, add the sway bars on the 2IS and you have a "standard" 3IS.
Lexus compromised the 3IS in important areas to get the handling close or at a 3-series and A4. Have you seen the 3-series interior? It's absolute crap, with the navigation screen seemingly glued on to the dash. Lexus is chasing the wrong dog...
LIke Hoovey said, all these luxury makers shouldn't get away with this.
I say again, the 3IS is better than 2IS in handling. But, it stops there. Options lost, interior downgrade (did you see the pictures above?), loss of touchscreen and now you're fooling around with a mouse. Come on Lexus. Why do you want a upside-down staircase as your center console too?
The 2IS is superior OVERALL even though the 3IS beats it in handling. Otherwise, it's not even a new engine (as we all know). Heck, add the sway bars on the 2IS and you have a "standard" 3IS.
Lexus compromised the 3IS in important areas to get the handling close or at a 3-series and A4. Have you seen the 3-series interior? It's absolute crap, with the navigation screen seemingly glued on to the dash. Lexus is chasing the wrong dog...
LIke Hoovey said, all these luxury makers shouldn't get away with this.
I never said the 3IS was a bad car, space, efficiency, design, technology, handling - it's all improved. What did not change or rather got worse was physical material quality (assembly is improved). Entry level or not, it's still a "Luxury" badge and deserves a lot better than some of the plastics that can also be found on my 2003 Explorer.
I've said it before and won't be the last time: The 2IS is the better LUXURY Sport Sedan, the 3IS is the better SPORT Luxury Sedan.
Add sway bars to a 2IS and you have a 3IS but nicer??? lol I drove the 2IS for 3 days as a loaner. I could not stand the dated interior. The touch screen is small and has etch-a-sketch graphics that the sun hits at the wrong time. The ventilation dials added as an after thought look crude and feel cheap. Yards of black vinyl stretching like the plains of Kansas on the dash. A ride that is Korean like. Man, keep the 2IS. It looks dated on the road already.
With Lexus (44.2 percent) being the only luxury brand (preferred by women) with over 40 percent.in the top 20 - See more at: http://blog.truecar.com/2012/04/23/m....08PXoToj.dpuf
That's as of 2011 (2IS). I'm sure the 3IS will drive that female preference ratio down since it is a much more masculine looking car imo.
Don't take that personal though okay?
That's as of 2011 (2IS). I'm sure the 3IS will drive that female preference ratio down since it is a much more masculine looking car imo.
Don't take that personal though okay?
09-25-13 | 08:47 PM
#40
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But thanks for posting your unbiased review on the interior. I also do not like the mouse controlled navigation. WTH were they thinking? One step forward, 3 steps back.
09-26-13 | 01:41 AM
#41
ok guys (glashub, is350awd, etc.) - enough with the personal comments, stereotyping generalizations, etc. let's stick to the cars and o.p. topic.
if you have an issue with that, pm me or another moderator. thanks.
if you have an issue with that, pm me or another moderator. thanks.
09-26-13 | 02:07 PM
#42
Originally Posted by Vroomin350 View Post
haha all the new owners who cant accept the mishaps of their new cars and all the previous owners who wont budge. Its ALL laughable to be honest and no one here should take anything personal.
Truth is, wether the 3IS is a great car or not, those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED. Don't take that personal either, but with a radio that has a mind of its own, plastics that scratch easier than paint, and same engines, there is NOTHING more than LOOKS.
Don't take "those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED." personal? You're a sour and petty human being for even posting bs like that. Don't take that personal okay? How does it feel to be driving a car that depreciated significantly when the 2014 came out and just about every reviewer states it's a dramatic improvement over the 2IS? Don't take that personal either to be honest. I have had zilch problems with my 3IS. I would've felt screwed if I bought a 2IS though. But don't take that personal either. I guarantee you that no BMW, Audi, Mercedes owner is looking at your 2IS with envy. But darn you could take that personal and I don't mean it that way so don't take it personal okay?
haha all the new owners who cant accept the mishaps of their new cars and all the previous owners who wont budge. Its ALL laughable to be honest and no one here should take anything personal.
Truth is, wether the 3IS is a great car or not, those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED. Don't take that personal either, but with a radio that has a mind of its own, plastics that scratch easier than paint, and same engines, there is NOTHING more than LOOKS.
Don't take "those who went and bought first year model got SCREWED." personal? You're a sour and petty human being for even posting bs like that. Don't take that personal okay? How does it feel to be driving a car that depreciated significantly when the 2014 came out and just about every reviewer states it's a dramatic improvement over the 2IS? Don't take that personal either to be honest. I have had zilch problems with my 3IS. I would've felt screwed if I bought a 2IS though. But don't take that personal either. I guarantee you that no BMW, Audi, Mercedes owner is looking at your 2IS with envy. But darn you could take that personal and I don't mean it that way so don't take it personal okay?
Dear good sir, you're horribly detailed and sarcastic answer clearly shows you strongly posses two great skills.
1. BUTTHURT ... and 2. You're way too emotional, get you're panties out of that bunch dude... jeez......
Insults simply show your lack of being able to put together and intelligent answer. I am a sour petty human ? because you DID get screwed with horrible lease and finance programs because you couldn't wait a few months??
Why would I be sour that my car depreciated? That's how it works, and btw my car is a lease so depreciation means NOTHING to me. Sooooooo.... ding ding ding! you my friend are correct.I wont take it personal
Oh and you should try to sharpen your reading skills. I never said the 3IS isn't an improvement over the 2IS...... but don't worry I wont take it personal.
As for AUDI, BMW, and 3IS owners not looking twice at my car?
I hate tooting my own horn but you my friend are something else, so here's a look at my car.
I constantly see 3IS owners breaking neck to it all the time, but please don't take that personal either
WORD OF ADVICE, DON'T JOIN A FORUM IF YOU CAN'T RECIPROCATE CONVERSATIONS LIKE AN ADULT.
Last edited by Vroomin350; 09-26-13 at 02:10 PM.
09-26-13 | 03:31 PM
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Dear good sir, you're horribly detailed and sarcastic answer clearly shows you strongly posses two great skills.
1. BUTTHURT ... and 2. You're way too emotional, get you're panties out of that bunch dude... jeez......
Insults simply show your lack of being able to put together and intelligent answer. I am a sour petty human ? because you DID get screwed with horrible lease and finance programs because you couldn't wait a few months??
Why would I be sour that my car depreciated? That's how it works, and btw my car is a lease so depreciation means NOTHING to me. Sooooooo.... ding ding ding! you my friend are correct.I wont take it personal
Oh and you should try to sharpen your reading skills. I never said the 3IS isn't an improvement over the 2IS...... but don't worry I wont take it personal.
As for AUDI, BMW, and 3IS owners not looking twice at my car?
I hate tooting my own horn but you my friend are something else, so here's a look at my car.
I constantly see 3IS owners breaking neck to it all the time, but please don't take that personal either
WORD OF ADVICE, DON'T JOIN A FORUM IF YOU CAN'T RECIPROCATE CONVERSATIONS LIKE AN ADULT.
1. BUTTHURT ... and 2. You're way too emotional, get you're panties out of that bunch dude... jeez......
Insults simply show your lack of being able to put together and intelligent answer. I am a sour petty human ? because you DID get screwed with horrible lease and finance programs because you couldn't wait a few months??
Why would I be sour that my car depreciated? That's how it works, and btw my car is a lease so depreciation means NOTHING to me. Sooooooo.... ding ding ding! you my friend are correct.I wont take it personal
Oh and you should try to sharpen your reading skills. I never said the 3IS isn't an improvement over the 2IS...... but don't worry I wont take it personal.
As for AUDI, BMW, and 3IS owners not looking twice at my car?
I hate tooting my own horn but you my friend are something else, so here's a look at my car.
I constantly see 3IS owners breaking neck to it all the time, but please don't take that personal either
WORD OF ADVICE, DON'T JOIN A FORUM IF YOU CAN'T RECIPROCATE CONVERSATIONS LIKE AN ADULT.