Is it possible to add AVS to the 250 F sport?
10-15-13, 01:04 PM
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Is it possible to add AVS to the 250 F sport?
Aside the costs involved, is it possible? What components make up the system? I don't understand why they wouldn't include AVS on the 250 F sport, or at least make it an option. I was just curious, and if at all realistic, I would be interested in doing the conversion.
10-15-13, 04:43 PM
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I'm sure it's marketing and consumer base research. If the only difference between a 250 and 350 in F-Sport trim were the engine there wouldn't be as much incentive to spend an extra ~$5K on the 350.
That - and the fact that if the 250 had the AVS it might compete with a luxury trim 350 around a track - probably led Lexus to intentionally exclude it from the 250's features in order to avoid self competition.
A good example of this is the number of BMW F30 328i owners that eschewed the 335i for superior weight distribution and balance. Hell, I think it was Motortrend that declared the current 328i superior to the current 335i for that reason.
That - and the fact that if the 250 had the AVS it might compete with a luxury trim 350 around a track - probably led Lexus to intentionally exclude it from the 250's features in order to avoid self competition.
A good example of this is the number of BMW F30 328i owners that eschewed the 335i for superior weight distribution and balance. Hell, I think it was Motortrend that declared the current 328i superior to the current 335i for that reason.
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10-15-13, 06:08 PM
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No AVS, no VGRS and like the regular IS, the 250 F-Sport has the regular drive selector modes (Eco, Normal, Sport) (No Sport S or S+ mode like the 350 F-Sport).
10-15-13, 11:28 PM
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I'm sure it's marketing and consumer base research. If the only difference between a 250 and 350 in F-Sport trim were the engine there wouldn't be as much incentive to spend an extra ~$5K on the 350.
That - and the fact that if the 250 had the AVS it might compete with a luxury trim 350 around a track - probably led Lexus to intentionally exclude it from the 250's features in order to avoid self competition.
A good example of this is the number of BMW F30 328i owners that eschewed the 335i for superior weight distribution and balance. Hell, I think it was Motortrend that declared the current 328i superior to the current 335i for that reason.
That - and the fact that if the 250 had the AVS it might compete with a luxury trim 350 around a track - probably led Lexus to intentionally exclude it from the 250's features in order to avoid self competition.
A good example of this is the number of BMW F30 328i owners that eschewed the 335i for superior weight distribution and balance. Hell, I think it was Motortrend that declared the current 328i superior to the current 335i for that reason.
but unless we are talking about slow speed autox, otherwise on any other track i can't possibly see how a 250 can take on a 350. it's just too slow. 328 is another story since the car is so much faster.
putting avs and vgrs on the 250 still won't make it shine that much, those give marginal gains.
not to mention, if they put vgrs and avs on 250 fsport, then the difference between 250 fsport and 350 fsport will be even LESS than the current ~4k difference, which should make it even more attractive to get the 350.
so while i agree lexus does this to further separate the two, i think on the 250 they are trying to reduce the cost as much as possible, making it more of a cosmetic package vs performance
10-16-13, 05:20 AM
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you left out the vgrs as well as larger brakes
but unless we are talking about slow speed autox, otherwise on any other track i can't possibly see how a 250 can take on a 350. it's just too slow. 328 is another story since the car is so much faster.
putting avs and vgrs on the 250 still won't make it shine that much, those give marginal gains.
not to mention, if they put vgrs and avs on 250 fsport, then the difference between 250 fsport and 350 fsport will be even LESS than the current ~4k difference, which should make it even more attractive to get the 350.
so while i agree lexus does this to further separate the two, i think on the 250 they are trying to reduce the cost as much as possible, making it more of a cosmetic package vs performance
but unless we are talking about slow speed autox, otherwise on any other track i can't possibly see how a 250 can take on a 350. it's just too slow. 328 is another story since the car is so much faster.
putting avs and vgrs on the 250 still won't make it shine that much, those give marginal gains.
not to mention, if they put vgrs and avs on 250 fsport, then the difference between 250 fsport and 350 fsport will be even LESS than the current ~4k difference, which should make it even more attractive to get the 350.
so while i agree lexus does this to further separate the two, i think on the 250 they are trying to reduce the cost as much as possible, making it more of a cosmetic package vs performance
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