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Old 08-05-15, 02:19 PM
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Default Did anyone cross shop IS250 with 320i

Curious if anyone thought about a BMW 320i when buying the IS250. What were your thoughts?

Seems to me the 320i is a more direct competitor to the 250 than the BMW 328i. Keep seeing rave reviews on the 320i with sports package.
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Wait for IS200t
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Originally Posted by SummerRain
Wait for IS200t

I have a 250 and am happy with it. Just curious about the bimmer.
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I did.

A friend of mine rides a 320i xDrive and I've driven this car many times before buying my IS. Nothing so special for me to sing the songs about like many others do. Not bad acceleration, almost on par with IS250, maybe a bit faster in real life, not on paper. Really good handling, but definitely not better than F Sport IS. Poor build quality of the interior compared to Lexus. The bimmer doesn't give me a desired driver's position, and Lexus surprisingly does. The 320i's 4-cyl turbo is miles behind the NA V6 in terms of smoothness and quietness - it shakes and jumps just like a 320d's diesel. Then comes an EXTREMELY poor reliability, proven by many people I know, and just 2 years of warranty when Lexus offers 3 years. The BMW's maintenance costs are noticeably higher too. Overall, the 320i is more a piece of BMW's marketing fluff than a real deal. The reason of choosing Lexus was obvious for me. Not a single complain or regret since then. )
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Originally Posted by Imprezario
I did.

A friend of mine rides a 320i xDrive and I've driven this car many times before buying my IS. Nothing so special for me to sing the songs about like many others do. Not bad acceleration, almost on par with IS250, maybe a bit faster in real life, not on paper. Really good handling, but definitely not better than F Sport IS. Poor build quality of the interior compared to Lexus. The bimmer doesn't give me a desired driver's position, and Lexus surprisingly does. The 320i's 4-cyl turbo is miles behind the NA V6 in terms of smoothness and quietness - it shakes and jumps just like a 320d's diesel. Then comes an EXTREMELY poor reliability, proven by many people I know, and just 2 years of warranty when Lexus offers 3 years. The BMW's maintenance costs are noticeably higher too. Overall, the 320i is more a piece of BMW's marketing fluff than a real deal. The reason of choosing Lexus was obvious for me. Not a single complain or regret since then. )
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Originally Posted by Imprezario
I did.

A friend of mine rides a 320i xDrive and I've driven this car many times before buying my IS. Nothing so special for me to sing the songs about like many others do. Not bad acceleration, almost on par with IS250, maybe a bit faster in real life, not on paper. Really good handling, but definitely not better than F Sport IS. Poor build quality of the interior compared to Lexus. The bimmer doesn't give me a desired driver's position, and Lexus surprisingly does. The 320i's 4-cyl turbo is miles behind the NA V6 in terms of smoothness and quietness - it shakes and jumps just like a 320d's diesel. Then comes an EXTREMELY poor reliability, proven by many people I know, and just 2 years of warranty when Lexus offers 3 years. The BMW's maintenance costs are noticeably higher too. Overall, the 320i is more a piece of BMW's marketing fluff than a real deal. The reason of choosing Lexus was obvious for me. Not a single complain or regret since then. )
Reliability and resell value is my top priority
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Originally Posted by SummerRain
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Yes sir
Old 08-05-15, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PAPI007
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+ 2 Not hating or anything! The 328 is a different story though, but I'm happy with my reliable & sexy Lexi girl
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Originally Posted by lexi90
+ 2 Not hating or anything! The 328 is a different story though, but I'm happy with my reliable & sexy Lexi girl
The 328 is an IS350 competitor. About the same price comparably equipped and about the same speed.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The 328 is an IS350 competitor. About the same price comparably equipped and about the same speed.
then the 335 should have a direct lexus segment competitor.
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Originally Posted by davyjordi
then the 335 should have a direct lexus segment competitor.
I agree but Lexus doesn't provide an adequate competitor. Even the F is somewhere between the M and the 335.
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what does the rc f compete with? the audi rs5, the mb c63 amg, and the bmw m4?

then the regular rc would compete with the bmw 335 -- or more directly against the coupe version, the 435.
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Originally Posted by davyjordi
what does the rc f compete with? the audi rs5, the mb c63 amg, and the bmw m4?

then the regular rc would compete with the bmw 335 -- or more directly against the coupe version, the 435.
The RCF is cheaper than its competition...and way fatter and slower too

It seems Lexus doesn't want to compete directly with the Germans on performance and price...kinda a step down. The premium configuration for Lexus seems to be the 2nd tier configuration for the Germans.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The RCF is cheaper than its competition...and way fatter and slower too

It seems Lexus doesn't want to compete directly with the Germans on performance and price...kinda a step down. The premium configuration for Lexus seems to be the 2nd tier configuration for the Germans.
which is a shame because lexus, at least in north america, is largely considered to be a tier-one luxury brand. it's not typically classified with the tier-two luxury brands -- acura, buick, lincoln, infiniti, cadillac, etc. cadillac is trying to crawl its way back into the tier-one category, though, and they've done an impressive job thus far. lexus should be following suit in an exceedingly competitive segment.
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Originally Posted by davyjordi
which is a shame because lexus, at least in north america, is largely considered to be a tier-one luxury brand. it's not typically classified with the tier-two luxury brands -- acura, buick, lincoln, infiniti, cadillac, etc. cadillac is trying to crawl its way back into the tier-one category, though, and they've done an impressive job thus far. lexus should be following suit in an exceedingly competitive segment.
i somewhat agree, but at least when i switched from Mercedes to a Lexus, a lot of coworkers asked why I "downgraded" to a Lexus? While Lexus is growing, i guess it doesn't have the prestige of a Mercedes or BMW just yet. I just smiled and told them I liked it better


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