Gas for 200t, does it really need premium?
04-15-16 | 11:46 AM
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Lets get something straight ... I'm not complaining about putting in 93, just asking if it really needs it.
The Toyota dealer convinced my girlfriends mom she needs 93 in her Camry because it had the V6 ... Not everything needs 93 because it's "recommended".
I just filled up with 93 and will continue to do so.
Good talk everyone!
The Toyota dealer convinced my girlfriends mom she needs 93 in her Camry because it had the V6 ... Not everything needs 93 because it's "recommended".
I just filled up with 93 and will continue to do so.
Good talk everyone!
04-15-16 | 11:51 AM
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actually the ECU will pull timing resulting in lower power and as a result IF something were to happen to the motor and Lexus reviews the ECU they will know that lower than recommended octane was used and they can deny warranty coverage.
I don't understand the logic of people, the difference (at least around here) between 87 and 91 octane is 20 cents, (10 cents between 89 and 91) for a full tank in my RCF that relates to a difference of $2.80, are people really that hard up for $3?
most people spend more than $3 on a cup of coffee, a pack of cigarettes, hell a damn beer at a bar.
you spend north of $40,000 for a premium brand/model car and then balk @ spending an extra $3.00 for the fuel per tank?
I don't understand the logic of people, the difference (at least around here) between 87 and 91 octane is 20 cents, (10 cents between 89 and 91) for a full tank in my RCF that relates to a difference of $2.80, are people really that hard up for $3?
most people spend more than $3 on a cup of coffee, a pack of cigarettes, hell a damn beer at a bar.
you spend north of $40,000 for a premium brand/model car and then balk @ spending an extra $3.00 for the fuel per tank?
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
04-15-16 | 11:56 AM
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I'd love to know where that is because the cheapest differential i see in grades if you is $.20 per grade. This means that premium fuel is at least $.40 per gallon more expensive than regular.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
This morning the local Chevron is:
regular: $2.26
midgrade: $2.36
premium: $2.46
Costco is currently:
regular: $2.08
premium: $2.28
You are correct, though, that in some areas the difference is quite significant.
04-15-16 | 12:01 PM
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I'd love to know where that is because the cheapest differential i see in grades if you is $.20 per grade. This means that premium fuel is at least $.40 per gallon more expensive than regular.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
the highest priced fuel in the country, go old southern California.
filled this morning: $3.15 for 91 octane, 89 was $3.05 and 87 was $2.95:
04-15-16 | 12:02 PM
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I'd love to know where that is because the cheapest differential i see in grades if you is $.20 per grade. This means that premium fuel is at least $.40 per gallon more expensive than regular.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
Again, this is the cheapest. Normally it's more like $.50 between regular and premium and I've seen as high as $.70.
04-15-16 | 12:04 PM
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04-15-16 | 12:22 PM
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Is 91 octane recommended for turbo car? Yes.
Is 91 octane REQUIRED for turbo car? NO.
I did put 91 in my IS200T.
For the last 20 years, I think 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of those years I put 87 octane in my MK3 Supra Turbo and it still run fine. Yes, the car isn't perform as good as with 91, but I didn't break anything.
am I going to put 87 in my IS? Probably not or not intentionally.
Another thing. On my 2012 Camry Hybrid, the manual recommended 87, on my bro ES 300H, the recommended is 91. I don't know why but the 2 engines are basically the same.
Is 91 octane REQUIRED for turbo car? NO.
I did put 91 in my IS200T.
For the last 20 years, I think 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of those years I put 87 octane in my MK3 Supra Turbo and it still run fine. Yes, the car isn't perform as good as with 91, but I didn't break anything.
am I going to put 87 in my IS? Probably not or not intentionally.
Another thing. On my 2012 Camry Hybrid, the manual recommended 87, on my bro ES 300H, the recommended is 91. I don't know why but the 2 engines are basically the same.
04-15-16 | 12:25 PM
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20-35%
04-15-16 | 12:32 PM
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But the price differential isn't the same everywhere either as one post indicated $.20c between regular and premium. Whereas I've personally seen as high as $.70 spread. (Beyond ridiculous when sub $2.00 gas is concerned)
04-15-16 | 12:46 PM
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I filled up at BP yesterday and 87 was $1.99. 91 was $2.69.
04-15-16 | 01:00 PM
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Question!
I have been using Shell and Chevron premium grade.
Is Costco premium better or worse? I'm a cheap *** and drive an is350 which eats gas like a mf.
I'm sure Costco is cheaper in terms of price, but does it run as well as Shell/Chevron?
I have been using Shell and Chevron premium grade.
Is Costco premium better or worse? I'm a cheap *** and drive an is350 which eats gas like a mf.
I'm sure Costco is cheaper in terms of price, but does it run as well as Shell/Chevron?
04-15-16 | 01:04 PM
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the government sets fairly stringent standards for all gasoline that is sold in the United States. When it comes to octane level and other specific gasoline characteristics, all gas is basically the same. The difference between the fuel that you buy at branded gas stations comes down to the detergents that are added to the gas.
The federal government has required since 1995 that all gasoline which is sold in the US must contain a certain amount of detergent additives. These additives are Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) approved, and the government has specified the amount of detergent which must be added to keep vehicle engines free from deposits. Costco gasoline meets all these requirements, or it couldn’t be sold in the United States.
A number of automakers made the decision that the US government additive requirement wasn’t high enough for many cars. As a result, they developed a “Top Tier” standard. In order to meet the “Top Tier” designation, the fuel sold at the gas station had to meet additive requirements higher than is required by the US government. Costco fuel meets this top-tier standard. Costco gasoline is rated as equal to any other major brand gasoline
04-15-16 | 01:06 PM
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Is 91 octane recommended for turbo car? Yes.
Is 91 octane REQUIRED for turbo car? NO.
I did put 91 in my IS200T.
For the last 20 years, I think 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of those years I put 87 octane in my MK3 Supra Turbo and it still run fine. Yes, the car isn't perform as good as with 91, but I didn't break anything.
am I going to put 87 in my IS? Probably not or not intentionally.
Another thing. On my 2012 Camry Hybrid, the manual recommended 87, on my bro ES 300H, the recommended is 91. I don't know why but the 2 engines are basically the same.
Is 91 octane REQUIRED for turbo car? NO.
I did put 91 in my IS200T.
For the last 20 years, I think 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of those years I put 87 octane in my MK3 Supra Turbo and it still run fine. Yes, the car isn't perform as good as with 91, but I didn't break anything.
am I going to put 87 in my IS? Probably not or not intentionally.
Another thing. On my 2012 Camry Hybrid, the manual recommended 87, on my bro ES 300H, the recommended is 91. I don't know why but the 2 engines are basically the same.
It's close to Canada's cost. We pay about $0.20 /L more or about $0.75 more a gallon for premium fuel. At that price difference, it's easier to see why people ask the questions on the effects of using a lower octane fuel. But rule of thumb, if it says "PREMIUM FUEL REQUIRED", put that in. If it's "recommended", save the money and go with 87.