Does aftermarket air intakes for 3IS actually produce any gains?
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From what we've seen and dyno'd, we haven't seen any double digit gains with just intake alone. It's more in the mid to low single digits, but it does gain just not alot.
Stock intake systems on cars these days are designed really well already.
In combination with exhaust, you'll gain more.
Stock intake systems on cars these days are designed really well already.
In combination with exhaust, you'll gain more.
Last edited by ARK Performance; 06-29-16 at 11:00 AM.
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Really? With people suing over too much ice in their Starbucks I highly doubt a company like K&N would lie and fake dyno results ... Seems like a good way to throw away millions of dollars and your reputation in the industry for someone calling them out on a $75 dyno pull ... BUT to each their own, believe or don't believe whatever you want ...
PS. Even car manufacturers don't exactly guarantee performance numbers. And you can't sue K&N they have a disclaimer, you have 30 days to return if you don't like the hp gain, after that you are on your own... Seriously are you like 16 years old lol?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Stage-1-Nano-Performance-Chip-ECU-Programmer-for-Lexus-IS250-IS350-2006-2016-Jet-/252417400480?nav=SEARCH
Last edited by kolyan; 06-29-16 at 12:18 PM.
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This product is for you....they claim 38+ hp gains
PS. Even car manufacturers don't exactly guarantee performance numbers. And you can't sue K&N they have a disclaimer, you have 30 days to return if you don't like the hp gain, after that you are on your own... Seriously are you like 16 years old lol?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Stage-1-Nano-P...480?nav=SEARCH
PS. Even car manufacturers don't exactly guarantee performance numbers. And you can't sue K&N they have a disclaimer, you have 30 days to return if you don't like the hp gain, after that you are on your own... Seriously are you like 16 years old lol?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Stage-1-Nano-P...480?nav=SEARCH
Based on your theory, i guess we can call ARK a liar and not believable with their dyno numbers correct? http://www.arkperformance.com/Produc...e=SM1500-0214G
Sorry ARK Performance based kolyan's theory we can't believe any of the results you post.
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You can resort to name calling, I'll stick to facts ...
Based on your theory, i guess we can call ARK a liar and not believable with their dyno numbers correct? http://www.arkperformance.com/Produc...e=SM1500-0214G
Sorry ARK Performance based kolyan's theory we can't believe any of the results you post.
Based on your theory, i guess we can call ARK a liar and not believable with their dyno numbers correct? http://www.arkperformance.com/Produc...e=SM1500-0214G
Sorry ARK Performance based kolyan's theory we can't believe any of the results you post.
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Stop acting like a child ... I just want to be clear on this issue ... Do you or don't you believe ARK is tell the truth about their dyno numbers? You don't believe K&N which would only mean you don't believe ARK. Joe Z has dyno numbers, are they lying too? Don't open Pandora's box and then run and hide ...
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Stop acting like a child ... I just want to be clear on this issue ... Do you or don't you believe ARK is tell the truth about their dyno numbers? You don't believe K&N which would only mean you don't believe ARK. Joe Z has dyno numbers, are they lying too? Don't open Pandora's box and then run and hide ...
"From what we've seen and dyno'd, we haven't seen any double digit gains with just intake alone. It's more in the mid to low single digits"
And on top of that, with many intakes you can gain 2-5hp on top end and loose same 5hp in low-mid end. That's if we don't take dyno inconsistency in consideration......
Last edited by kolyan; 06-29-16 at 02:49 PM.
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@Mike200T
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
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@Mike200T
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
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I am not going to comment on ARK products, simply because I don't really care. But you probably missed what ARK said:
"From what we've seen and dyno'd, we haven't seen any double digit gains with just intake alone. It's more in the mid to low single digits"
And on top of that, with many intakes you can gain 2-5hp on top end and loose same 5hp in low-mid end. That's if we don't take dyno inconsistency in consideration......
"From what we've seen and dyno'd, we haven't seen any double digit gains with just intake alone. It's more in the mid to low single digits"
And on top of that, with many intakes you can gain 2-5hp on top end and loose same 5hp in low-mid end. That's if we don't take dyno inconsistency in consideration......
@Mike200T
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
I do not see any issue with the ARK dyno numbers as they are reasonable and dyno numbers by exhaust owners usually produce similar gain. However I have never seen an intake which gives 12-18 who. BTW Joe Z intake was advertised to produce 5 whp and thats actually reasonable for an intake.
@kolyan
Thats not a good way to discuss/argue with any one by calling him a 16 year old.
And for the record, I'm 32 and have driven cars with 150 hp and 600 hp. I've driven and raced n/a, turbo, nitrous and supercharged cars. I've driven street cars over 150 mph on a race track and on drag strip with mid 10sec times. I worked on and strapped to dynos Honda Civics to Dodge Vipers ... Next time do some research before you try to come at a "16 year old" with bull crap and blanket statements.
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We are talking about air filters and specifically K&N. The point is simple, they don't make those claimed performance number. Period. And if you are a racer, worked on cars and dynos and 32, you should kinda know that, no?
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You like to talk (type) a lot but don't ever post facts. You just make blanket statements for the entire industry. You might not realize it, or care, but your statement labeled the entire industry as liars and frauds if they posted dyno results.
The end to this conversation is simple but I'm sure you won't agree with it ...
The claims on K&N's website were most likely done in a controlled environment with optimal conditions to help yield the best results possible. The "everyday driver" results will most likely be lower since driving conditions are constantly changing and are very rarely optimal.