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Old 05-25-17 | 01:00 PM
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Forgot to update. Ended up getting spot delivered. Had to take it back after 2 days while they were trying to get my co-signer approved. Apparently she wasn't strong enough. Sure sucked having the car for 2 days, only having to return it.
Sorry to hear that. You know, a used 2014 IS lease return might be an option to purchase rather than lease if the credit thing is getting in the way. With $5K down banks may give you a better time of it. Not 100% sure but might be worth looking into.....
Old 05-25-17 | 02:27 PM
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Sorry to hear that. You know, a used 2014 IS lease return might be an option to purchase rather than lease if the credit thing is getting in the way. With $5K down banks may give you a better time of it. Not 100% sure but might be worth looking into.....
Yeah I'm looking at some used ones...http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=457392001&zip=98026&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98026%26showcaseOwnerId%3D57193502%26startYear%3D2014%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26maxPrice%3D30000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26seriesCodeList%3DIS_MODELS%26endYear%3D2018%26makeCodeList%3DLEXUS%26searchRadius%3D100&startYear=2014&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&makeCodeList=LEXUS&searchRadius=100&makeCode1=LEXUS&modelCode1=IS250

http://www.lexusofbellevue.com/Vehic...-WA/2971101793

The second link has the white on red which is what I wanted. Going to visit my local credit union and see what works. Which do you think is better go with? My credit score also updated 110 points two days ago. Hope that helps as well.

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Old 05-25-17 | 02:56 PM
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15 IS 350 here which I got down to about 44. 0 down and 480 a month lease. 3/36k miles...got a year left if anyone wants to do a lease takeover (thinking about moving up)
Old 05-25-17 | 09:01 PM
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Yeah I'm looking at some used ones...

The second link has the white on red which is what I wanted. Going to visit my local credit union and see what works. Which do you think is better go with? My credit score also updated 110 points two days ago. Hope that helps as well.
KBB has a 2015 IS 250 AWD with ~28K miles at about 28,500 "fair price". The Silver one is much closer to a reasonable price - has a clean Carfax and it looks like the owner tinted the windows. I do personally like the red interior of the white one, but they want $34K and you know at Bellevue Lexus they aren't going to negotiate much off that. $6K over book is insulting IMO. Probably because they added a bunch of junk you don't want but will make you pay for. Or, you know, because Bellevue.

If your credit is shaky, you are much better off with the car with the price as close to market as you can and use your down payment so the loan < car value. Banks don't like it when the loan amount is close to or greater than the value of the car. If the bank thinks its a $28.5K car, they won't want to give a loan over that. I think the silver one is your better bet.

Checkout cars.com. I did a quick query and there are like 22 2015 IS's in the area. Several good choices under $30K.
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Go to BECU. Most of my friends here in this state got the best rates through them.
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KBB has a 2015 IS 250 AWD with ~28K miles at about 28,500 "fair price". The Silver one is much closer to a reasonable price - has a clean Carfax and it looks like the owner tinted the windows. I do personally like the red interior of the white one, but they want $34K and you know at Bellevue Lexus they aren't going to negotiate much off that. $6K over book is insulting IMO. Probably because they added a bunch of junk you don't want but will make you pay for. Or, you know, because Bellevue.

If your credit is shaky, you are much better off with the car with the price as close to market as you can and use your down payment so the loan < car value. Banks don't like it when the loan amount is close to or greater than the value of the car. If the bank thinks its a $28.5K car, they won't want to give a loan over that. I think the silver one is your better bet.

Checkout cars.com. I did a quick query and there are like 22 2015 IS's in the area. Several good choices under $30K.
Thanks for the help! Yeah I always wanted the white on red combo. It did go down to $32,995 last I checked. The plus is that it's Certified at least. I'm currently waiting on a loan approval of $35,000. So if I did get it at 32,995 with 5000 down then I'd actually be financing $27,995 right? And the new 2017 is200t f sport that i leased for 2 days (-.-) was at 40xxx. With 5k down on that it would be 35,000. So I could potentially get that as well. The loan officer did mention 120% ltv. What does that mean? I will try BECU if it doesn't work out with Inspirus CU.
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I think this is how I think the math would go:

$32,995 price
$2,970 (sales tax at 9% - which isn't exact but probably close in King Country)
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$35,965
-$5,000 down

$30,965
+$550 (license and assume $150 doc fee - $400 is high for licensing but if you are in the new tax zone for the new light rail, it could be that much)
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$31,515 loan amount.

Don't forget all that other annoying stuff when you do your "what if". You are probably in for ~$3,500 in tax, license and fees, so unfortunately most of your down just offsets that. Also keep that in mind when you are dealing with the bank. In that scenario, you are borrowing something pretty close (if not more) than what the bank may think the value of the car is.

And I apologize if you know this, but if you borrow an amount that's close to the value of the car, I'd plan on owning it at least 2 years. Initially the car will depreciate faster than you can pay it off, but you'll catch up in 12-18 months if it's a 4 year loan, but if you go 5 years or more that could be more like 24-30 months. Just make a decision you can drive for a while, because getting out of it will cost you money until what you owe catches up with what it's worth.

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Originally Posted by 1Louder
I think this is how I think the math would go:

$32,995 price
$2,970 (sales tax at 9% - which isn't exact but probably close in King Country)
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$35,965
-$5,000 down

$30,965
+$550 (license and assume $150 doc fee - $400 is high for licensing but if you are in the new tax zone for the new light rail, it could be that much)
----------
$31,515 loan amount.

Don't forget all that other annoying stuff when you do your "what if". You are probably in for ~$3,500 in tax, license and fees, so unfortunately most of your down just offsets that. Also keep that in mind when you are dealing with the bank. In that scenario, you are borrowing something pretty close (if not more) than what the bank may think the value of the car is.

And I apologize if you know this, but if you borrow an amount that's close to the value of the car, I'd plan on owning it at least 2 years. Initially the car will depreciate faster than you can pay it off, but you'll catch up in 12-18 months if it's a 4 year loan, but if you go 5 years or more that could be more like 24-30 months. Just make a decision you can drive for a while, because getting out of it will cost you money until what you owe catches up with what it's worth.
Yeah that looks like that makes sense. Thanks. Still waiting to hear back regarding my loan status. Hopefully today.
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Final update. Bought the CPO 15 is250 white on red at 5.2% apr on Wednesday.
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Originally Posted by jameshan
Final update. Bought the CPO 15 is250 white on red at 5.2% apr on Wednesday.
Kinda high interest imo. How much are you financing?
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Kinda high interest imo. How much are you financing?
Yeah I mean it wasn't too bad for having no loan history and only one small credit card that I just opened a month ago for credit building purposes. Financed 32xxx.
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What the heck. You're financing 32k? For a is250?

How much was the selling price of the car?
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Is that bad? Kbb valued it as fair market price. The selling price was 32k. I canceled out the tax with down.
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Originally Posted by nathantse
What the heck. You're financing 32k? For a is250?

How much was the selling price of the car?
Keep in mind there is $3500 or so in tax, license and fees that have to be overcome with a deal like that. Because Washington.
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Originally Posted by jameshan
Final update. Bought the CPO 15 is250 white on red at 5.2% apr on Wednesday.
Congrats on the new car!! The white one was nice. You know with maybe a year of credit history under your belt, you might be able to refinance at some point too. Enjoy the car!



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