Creaking/ popping noise when turning in neighborhoods
06-12-20 | 12:56 PM
#31
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Could that be strut mounts? Could be the spring not seated properly against the strut. I doubt that this noise has anything to do with brakes. When you "grease up" the brakes, are you greasing up anything else around the suspension? If so, your problem could be in those components.
06-12-20 | 01:02 PM
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My 2IS 250 had a sound issue only when turning into a parking spot after the 7th year but yea could have just been breaks, an idiot rear ended and totaled it so never looked into it further.
I should note the wheel the sound was coming from was also cracked from a pothole 2yrs prior (RIM damage was addressed of course), now was there damage beyond the RIM that was hard to detect who knows now.
I should note the wheel the sound was coming from was also cracked from a pothole 2yrs prior (RIM damage was addressed of course), now was there damage beyond the RIM that was hard to detect who knows now.
06-14-20 | 05:59 AM
#33
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Did someone ever find a cause of this issue?
I have the same popping/creaking noise from the front suspension while turning AND braking, like in this video posted above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2a4YDtWwI on my 2014 IS 250 (non f sport, all stock).
The only thing that reduces the extent of it/makes it go away temporary is greasing up the brakes. That usually lasts around a week or two.
So far I've tried:
New OEM front brake pads and rotors (mine were close to the end of their life, however new ones did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake pad retaining clips (or whatever they are called) and new shim kit (did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake calipers (did not fix the issue)
At this point I'm really frustrated because the whole front brake system is pretty much brand new and yet the issue is still present (and it keeps worsening until it becomes so loud and annoying that I end up greasing up the brakes which solves it for a week or two).
I've bought the car at 30k miles and it did not make any of the noises in the beginning (Car has 60k now).
The issue only starts to happen after a car is driven for a certain period of time (20+ minutes) and the brakes/suspension heats up and reaches the operating temperature.
I have the same popping/creaking noise from the front suspension while turning AND braking, like in this video posted above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2a4YDtWwI on my 2014 IS 250 (non f sport, all stock).
The only thing that reduces the extent of it/makes it go away temporary is greasing up the brakes. That usually lasts around a week or two.
So far I've tried:
New OEM front brake pads and rotors (mine were close to the end of their life, however new ones did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake pad retaining clips (or whatever they are called) and new shim kit (did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake calipers (did not fix the issue)
At this point I'm really frustrated because the whole front brake system is pretty much brand new and yet the issue is still present (and it keeps worsening until it becomes so loud and annoying that I end up greasing up the brakes which solves it for a week or two).
I've bought the car at 30k miles and it did not make any of the noises in the beginning (Car has 60k now).
The issue only starts to happen after a car is driven for a certain period of time (20+ minutes) and the brakes/suspension heats up and reaches the operating temperature.
I'm not sure if your IS is RWD or AWD, so I'm going to assume it's RWD for now.
Based on the noise you captured in the video I would be more inclined to think that the noise is coming from a suspension component that rotates when you turn. The first place I would start looking is the lower and upper balljoints and upper strut mounts. After that would be inner and outer tie rod ends.
If you can identify which side of the car is making the noise, that will cut the possibilities in half right away.
It kinda sounds like those old Honda's that the lower joint is going on.
Can you duplicate the noise with the vehicle stationary by just turning the wheel left or right?
06-14-20 | 02:47 PM
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Did someone ever find a cause of this issue?
I have the same popping/creaking noise from the front suspension while turning AND braking, like in this video posted above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2a4YDtWwI on my 2014 IS 250 (non f sport, all stock).
The only thing that reduces the extent of it/makes it go away temporary is greasing up the brakes. That usually lasts around a week or two.
So far I've tried:
New OEM front brake pads and rotors (mine were close to the end of their life, however new ones did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake pad retaining clips (or whatever they are called) and new shim kit (did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake calipers (did not fix the issue)
At this point I'm really frustrated because the whole front brake system is pretty much brand new and yet the issue is still present (and it keeps worsening until it becomes so loud and annoying that I end up greasing up the brakes which solves it for a week or two).
I've bought the car at 30k miles and it did not make any of the noises in the beginning (Car has 60k now).
The issue only starts to happen after a car is driven for a certain period of time (20+ minutes) and the brakes/suspension heats up and reaches the operating temperature.
I have the same popping/creaking noise from the front suspension while turning AND braking, like in this video posted above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2a4YDtWwI on my 2014 IS 250 (non f sport, all stock).
The only thing that reduces the extent of it/makes it go away temporary is greasing up the brakes. That usually lasts around a week or two.
So far I've tried:
New OEM front brake pads and rotors (mine were close to the end of their life, however new ones did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake pad retaining clips (or whatever they are called) and new shim kit (did not fix the issue)
New OEM front brake calipers (did not fix the issue)
At this point I'm really frustrated because the whole front brake system is pretty much brand new and yet the issue is still present (and it keeps worsening until it becomes so loud and annoying that I end up greasing up the brakes which solves it for a week or two).
I've bought the car at 30k miles and it did not make any of the noises in the beginning (Car has 60k now).
The issue only starts to happen after a car is driven for a certain period of time (20+ minutes) and the brakes/suspension heats up and reaches the operating temperature.
06-14-20 | 04:11 PM
#36
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Easiest way to check them is to lift the entire front off the ground and shake each end link...if you feel any play then replace...they should not have any play at all.
06-16-20 | 03:47 PM
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Could that be strut mounts? Could be the spring not seated properly against the strut. I doubt that this noise has anything to do with brakes. When you "grease up" the brakes, are you greasing up anything else around the suspension? If so, your problem could be in those components.
06-16-20 | 04:06 PM
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The noise you're getting there isn't the typical brake noise that the thread is referring to...at least that's my opinion.
I'm not sure if your IS is RWD or AWD, so I'm going to assume it's RWD for now.
Based on the noise you captured in the video I would be more inclined to think that the noise is coming from a suspension component that rotates when you turn. The first place I would start looking is the lower and upper balljoints and upper strut mounts. After that would be inner and outer tie rod ends.
If you can identify which side of the car is making the noise, that will cut the possibilities in half right away.
It kinda sounds like those old Honda's that the lower joint is going on.
Can you duplicate the noise with the vehicle stationary by just turning the wheel left or right?
I'm not sure if your IS is RWD or AWD, so I'm going to assume it's RWD for now.
Based on the noise you captured in the video I would be more inclined to think that the noise is coming from a suspension component that rotates when you turn. The first place I would start looking is the lower and upper balljoints and upper strut mounts. After that would be inner and outer tie rod ends.
If you can identify which side of the car is making the noise, that will cut the possibilities in half right away.
It kinda sounds like those old Honda's that the lower joint is going on.
Can you duplicate the noise with the vehicle stationary by just turning the wheel left or right?
The video above was posted by other user @snabbledab, however I am 100% sure the noise I am getting is the same that he managed to capture on his video, along with the conditions under which it happens.
The issue has been worsening lately and I was able to capture the sound of the popping (while turning AND braking) that can be heard inside the cabin myself, https://vocaroo.com/7tKRqE2Fqa5
Recently the issue has gotten so bad that it actually started popping even when braking in a straight line (or turning steering wheel at least a tiny little bit while braking), I have then managed to capture how it sounds from the outside, which, surprisingly, is completely different from what can be heard inside the cabin.
Here is a video that I've captured of how it sounds from the outside, it seems to come from both left and right wheels, however noise from left one happens much more frequently: https://streamable.com/f7u6qe
It seems like the same sound (but more silent) can also be heard from the outside when turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still, but only if in D. turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still in N or R doesn't cause any sound.
Last edited by MJan; 06-16-20 at 04:12 PM.
06-17-20 | 04:24 AM
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All the items mentioned that would generate the noise would do so internally to the component (i.e. ball joint, strut mount, etc.), so since the silicone can't get inside the part, then it wouldn't have helped unfortunately.
06-17-20 | 04:34 AM
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It is RWD.
The video above was posted by other user @snabbledab, however I am 100% sure the noise I am getting is the same that he managed to capture on his video, along with the conditions under which it happens.
The issue has been worsening lately and I was able to capture the sound of the popping (while turning AND braking) that can be heard inside the cabin myself, https://vocaroo.com/7tKRqE2Fqa5
Recently the issue has gotten so bad that it actually started popping even when braking in a straight line (or turning steering wheel at least a tiny little bit while braking), I have then managed to capture how it sounds from the outside, which, surprisingly, is completely different from what can be heard inside the cabin.
Here is a video that I've captured of how it sounds from the outside, it seems to come from both left and right wheels, however noise from left one happens much more frequently: https://streamable.com/f7u6qe
It seems like the same sound (but more silent) can also be heard from the outside when turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still, but only if in D. turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still in N or R doesn't cause any sound.
The video above was posted by other user @snabbledab, however I am 100% sure the noise I am getting is the same that he managed to capture on his video, along with the conditions under which it happens.
The issue has been worsening lately and I was able to capture the sound of the popping (while turning AND braking) that can be heard inside the cabin myself, https://vocaroo.com/7tKRqE2Fqa5
Recently the issue has gotten so bad that it actually started popping even when braking in a straight line (or turning steering wheel at least a tiny little bit while braking), I have then managed to capture how it sounds from the outside, which, surprisingly, is completely different from what can be heard inside the cabin.
Here is a video that I've captured of how it sounds from the outside, it seems to come from both left and right wheels, however noise from left one happens much more frequently: https://streamable.com/f7u6qe
It seems like the same sound (but more silent) can also be heard from the outside when turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still, but only if in D. turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still in N or R doesn't cause any sound.
I would check the lower and upper ball joints as well as the tie rod end of the steering rack.
Also check the where the lower control arm bolts to the subframe and ball joint to confirm there is no movement in the bolts...and the nut behind the lower control arm bushing.
Also check the bolt at the bottom of the strut, and the nuts at the top of the strut to confirm they are tight.
Since all the brakes are new, that kinda eliminates them from being the issue.
Make sure the wheels are torqued down properly as well...I had one vehicle the rotor would shift in between the rim and hub because the wheel wasn't tight enough, and it made a similar sound to that.
06-17-20 | 07:48 AM
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The noise sounds like it is right behind the wheel.
I would check the lower and upper ball joints as well as the tie rod end of the steering rack.
Also check the where the lower control arm bolts to the subframe and ball joint to confirm there is no movement in the bolts...and the nut behind the lower control arm bushing.
Also check the bolt at the bottom of the strut, and the nuts at the top of the strut to confirm they are tight.
Since all the brakes are new, that kinda eliminates them from being the issue.
Make sure the wheels are torqued down properly as well...I had one vehicle the rotor would shift in between the rim and hub because the wheel wasn't tight enough, and it made a similar sound to that.
I would check the lower and upper ball joints as well as the tie rod end of the steering rack.
Also check the where the lower control arm bolts to the subframe and ball joint to confirm there is no movement in the bolts...and the nut behind the lower control arm bushing.
Also check the bolt at the bottom of the strut, and the nuts at the top of the strut to confirm they are tight.
Since all the brakes are new, that kinda eliminates them from being the issue.
Make sure the wheels are torqued down properly as well...I had one vehicle the rotor would shift in between the rim and hub because the wheel wasn't tight enough, and it made a similar sound to that.
02-20-24 | 11:47 AM
#42
It is RWD.
The video above was posted by other user @snabbledab, however I am 100% sure the noise I am getting is the same that he managed to capture on his video, along with the conditions under which it happens.
The issue has been worsening lately and I was able to capture the sound of the popping (while turning AND braking) that can be heard inside the cabin myself, https://vocaroo.com/7tKRqE2Fqa5
Recently the issue has gotten so bad that it actually started popping even when braking in a straight line (or turning steering wheel at least a tiny little bit while braking), I have then managed to capture how it sounds from the outside, which, surprisingly, is completely different from what can be heard inside the cabin.
Here is a video that I've captured of how it sounds from the outside, it seems to come from both left and right wheels, however noise from left one happens much more frequently: https://streamable.com/f7u6qe
It seems like the same sound (but more silent) can also be heard from the outside when turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still, but only if in D. turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still in N or R doesn't cause any sound.
The video above was posted by other user @snabbledab, however I am 100% sure the noise I am getting is the same that he managed to capture on his video, along with the conditions under which it happens.
The issue has been worsening lately and I was able to capture the sound of the popping (while turning AND braking) that can be heard inside the cabin myself, https://vocaroo.com/7tKRqE2Fqa5
Recently the issue has gotten so bad that it actually started popping even when braking in a straight line (or turning steering wheel at least a tiny little bit while braking), I have then managed to capture how it sounds from the outside, which, surprisingly, is completely different from what can be heard inside the cabin.
Here is a video that I've captured of how it sounds from the outside, it seems to come from both left and right wheels, however noise from left one happens much more frequently: https://streamable.com/f7u6qe
It seems like the same sound (but more silent) can also be heard from the outside when turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still, but only if in D. turning the wheels and holding brake while standing still in N or R doesn't cause any sound.
I Thought of ball joints first so
upper and lower ball joints replaced (includes tie rod end since it’s with the lower ball joint)
new sway bar end links
brakes are newish
pads seem well seated
some times in a straight line braking makes noises
also when turning at low speed or medium speed
attached a video sounds like it’s coming from Lowersuspension
oem suspension
when turning the car parked pads make no noise so I don’t think it’s the pads, it’s pretty loud in the car.
happens more on right hand turns than left
car can hit bumps with no noise
thanks
02-20-24 | 12:03 PM
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I have this exact issue, makes noise in p and d though
I Thought of ball joints first so
upper and lower ball joints replaced (includes tie rod end since it’s with the lower ball joint)
new sway bar end links
brakes are newish
pads seem well seated
some times in a straight line braking makes noises
also when turning at low speed or medium speed
attached a video sounds like it’s coming from Lowersuspension
oem suspension
when turning the car parked pads make no noise so I don’t think it’s the pads, it’s pretty loud in the car.
happens more on right hand turns than left
car can hit bumps with no noise
thanks
I Thought of ball joints first so
upper and lower ball joints replaced (includes tie rod end since it’s with the lower ball joint)
new sway bar end links
brakes are newish
pads seem well seated
some times in a straight line braking makes noises
also when turning at low speed or medium speed
attached a video sounds like it’s coming from Lowersuspension
oem suspension
when turning the car parked pads make no noise so I don’t think it’s the pads, it’s pretty loud in the car.
happens more on right hand turns than left
car can hit bumps with no noise
thanks
obviously this may not be the solution for everyone but it’s very easy to loosen that bolt and not realize it
02-20-24 | 05:36 PM
#44
I checked these and they are tight. They are still OEM and never touched.
even though i got it on a lift still cant figure out the noise.
I guess i should replace the struts next since everything was replaced already. Pulling my hair out.
even though i got it on a lift still cant figure out the noise.
I guess i should replace the struts next since everything was replaced already. Pulling my hair out.
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