Gauge cluster swap
08-05-20, 05:14 PM
#46
drives cars
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...3-present-237/
08-26-20, 09:21 PM
#47
Intermediate
Just did this swap after finding a unit for less than $200 shipped. Remove and replace only took 20 mins. I tried as much to get a unit as close to my car (2016 IS200t non-navi, no IPA/PCS/DRCC/BSM/RCTA) and even though the unit came from a vehicle with BSM/RCTA, it did not trigger any warning lights.
Regarding the mileage, I was expecting the true vehicle mileage to be available in Techstream with the assumption that the data was stored in the ECU separate from the cluster, but it turns out Techstream just pulls the number from the cluster. I dug around Techstream and was unable to find the mileage on my original cluster, so that's interesting... in any case, my "new" unit is 40k over my original so I'm planning on getting it re-programmed eventually.
Regarding the mileage, I was expecting the true vehicle mileage to be available in Techstream with the assumption that the data was stored in the ECU separate from the cluster, but it turns out Techstream just pulls the number from the cluster. I dug around Techstream and was unable to find the mileage on my original cluster, so that's interesting... in any case, my "new" unit is 40k over my original so I'm planning on getting it re-programmed eventually.
08-28-20, 07:21 AM
#48
How hard is it to physically swap the cluster out? Also, for base models switching to the fsport cluster, it sounds like the steering wheel can still change the cluster position like a true fsport after the swap even though nothing similar exists in the base?
08-28-20, 09:49 AM
#49
Intermediate
Yes, the cluster is able to slide to the right just like the actual F-sport. The button just sends the signal to the cluster, the cluster itself takes care of the slide control.
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08-28-20, 05:54 PM
#50
It is physically not hard to remove the cluster. Pop-off 2 trim pieces, un-clip 3-5 cables, and remove 4 phillips screws. The most tedious part is getting the cluster out of the dash area once it is unscrewed since it is a bit tight. I referred to these instructions in this RC forum thread: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ster-swap.html
Yes, the cluster is able to slide to the right just like the actual F-sport. The button just sends the signal to the cluster, the cluster itself takes care of the slide control.
Yes, the cluster is able to slide to the right just like the actual F-sport. The button just sends the signal to the cluster, the cluster itself takes care of the slide control.
08-28-20, 07:22 PM
#51
Intermediate
Car-part.com was super helpful. Put in your model year, motor, and search for “Speedometer” under the Electrical parts. You can try searching “Gauges” or “Instrument Cluster”, but I had the best results using the speedo search. You’ll get a list of matches for the part across many different salvage yards. It’ll be up to you to work with the vendor to verify the part. Always ask for the originating VIN, input into the Lexus website, and make sure the specs matches your vehicle. It is best to match all specs, but again I found that the originating vehicle having BSM/RCTA and mine not worked fine for me still. This method is more work and more risky than eBay since you have less consumer protections.
09-22-20, 06:51 AM
#52
Driver School Candidate
If you swap your base model gauge for an F-sport gauge, all functions will work IF both gauges are from the same model year. I did the swap awhile ago and re-programmed my mileage.
You cannot simply sell a vehicle that has a discrepancy between the mileage indicated on the dashboard and the actual vehicle mileage. You either have to re-program the mileage to match or deal with paperwork and possible headaches down the road when you want to sell the vehicle. If you do not re-program to match, or take the proper steps when selling the vehicle to disclose the actual mileage, that would be a federal offense.
Additionally, the mileage on the odometer is recorded every time you get your car serviced. Having the correct mileage will aid in easier record keeping if your service center publishes this information online/in a database. Think of CarFax and Lexus Online Service History, those types of databases.
I did it for the peace of mind and because my Lexus Service Rep said they would honor my vehicles warranty only if my new odometer reading matched my actual mileage.
You cannot simply sell a vehicle that has a discrepancy between the mileage indicated on the dashboard and the actual vehicle mileage. You either have to re-program the mileage to match or deal with paperwork and possible headaches down the road when you want to sell the vehicle. If you do not re-program to match, or take the proper steps when selling the vehicle to disclose the actual mileage, that would be a federal offense.
Additionally, the mileage on the odometer is recorded every time you get your car serviced. Having the correct mileage will aid in easier record keeping if your service center publishes this information online/in a database. Think of CarFax and Lexus Online Service History, those types of databases.
I did it for the peace of mind and because my Lexus Service Rep said they would honor my vehicles warranty only if my new odometer reading matched my actual mileage.
Hey, just got an Fsport cluster and wanted wantedt with you a bit about the eeprom programming. I can't pm yet though.
10-19-20, 03:46 PM
#54
Intermediate
10-20-20, 01:48 PM
#55
Driver School Candidate
10-20-20, 05:55 PM
#56
Intermediate
10-27-20, 03:00 PM
#57
Driver School Candidate
I was keeping an eye out on eBay for the longest time and found the lowest price to be $300, and that wasn’t even from a same motor IS.
Car-part.com was super helpful. Put in your model year, motor, and search for “Speedometer” under the Electrical parts. You can try searching “Gauges” or “Instrument Cluster”, but I had the best results using the speedo search. You’ll get a list of matches for the part across many different salvage yards. It’ll be up to you to work with the vendor to verify the part. Always ask for the originating VIN, input into the Lexus website, and make sure the specs matches your vehicle. It is best to match all specs, but again I found that the originating vehicle having BSM/RCTA and mine not worked fine for me still. This method is more work and more risky than eBay since you have less consumer protections.
Car-part.com was super helpful. Put in your model year, motor, and search for “Speedometer” under the Electrical parts. You can try searching “Gauges” or “Instrument Cluster”, but I had the best results using the speedo search. You’ll get a list of matches for the part across many different salvage yards. It’ll be up to you to work with the vendor to verify the part. Always ask for the originating VIN, input into the Lexus website, and make sure the specs matches your vehicle. It is best to match all specs, but again I found that the originating vehicle having BSM/RCTA and mine not worked fine for me still. This method is more work and more risky than eBay since you have less consumer protections.
10-27-20, 03:21 PM
#58
Intermediate
I've been interested in this swap for a while but never did it because I had trouble finding a matching cluster to my car's mileage/specs. This method has been a great help, thank you! I've found a cluster close to my cars mileage that's decently close to my car's specs. Would you happen to know if navigation matters for the cluster to function properly? I have a 2016 IS200t base (non-navigation) and the cluster that I'm looking at would be coming from a 2016 IS200t F-sport with navigation. I tried searching for a cluster from a 2016 IS200t F-Sport without navigation but there were none to be found. Would it be a better idea to keep searching for a cluster from a non-navigation F-sport or am I all good to go on the cluster I've found?
My guess is that you won't have any issues, besides having a non-functional navigation tab on the cluster info screen. I believe some users have used a navigation cluster on a non-navigation vehicle, but I did not find any reports of issues.
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10-27-20, 03:24 PM
#59
Driver School Candidate
I do not know for sure. I don't see any navigation-related warning messages in the user manual, so I wouldn't expect a warning message to be able to appear on the cluster. Connector-wise, there is a navigation specific plug but I don't see why the cluster wouldn't work as long as you had the other connectors plugged in.
My guess is that you won't have any issues, besides having a non-functional navigation tab on the cluster info screen. I believe some users have used a navigation cluster on a non-navigation vehicle, but I did not find any reports of issues.
My guess is that you won't have any issues, besides having a non-functional navigation tab on the cluster info screen. I believe some users have used a navigation cluster on a non-navigation vehicle, but I did not find any reports of issues.
10-27-20, 03:46 PM
#60
Driver School Candidate
I do not know for sure. I don't see any navigation-related warning messages in the user manual, so I wouldn't expect a warning message to be able to appear on the cluster. Connector-wise, there is a navigation specific plug but I don't see why the cluster wouldn't work as long as you had the other connectors plugged in.
My guess is that you won't have any issues, besides having a non-functional navigation tab on the cluster info screen. I believe some users have used a navigation cluster on a non-navigation vehicle, but I did not find any reports of issues.
My guess is that you won't have any issues, besides having a non-functional navigation tab on the cluster info screen. I believe some users have used a navigation cluster on a non-navigation vehicle, but I did not find any reports of issues.