Tire Oppinions - All Season
#16
Hrm, I am confused. Have you owned both the Potenzas and the P Zeroes? But yeah reviews look mostly positive on the RE980AS. I don't think Costco even offers the P Zero in stock IS sizes. The only other options I have are the BFGoodrich G-Force Comp-2 A/S and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+. (What a mouthful those are!) I've heard the BFGoodrich tires are good too, and much cheaper than any of the other options if you ignore the discount being run on Bridgestones.
My comment about the RE980AS was from what I have read on the BMW forums and tirerack comparisons. I almost got those for my IS350 but PZero's were on sale and given our cars eat the front tires for breakfast, I picked the cheaper of the two.
#18
My 2014 IS350 came with staggered 18" Bridgestone Turanza ER33 summer tires. Their performance was good but I had to replace them at 25k due to inner wall wear. I am in Houston so summer tire are OK for me. I ended up getting Conti DWS 06. I also did an alignment at the dealer and made sure that front wheels were set at zero toe to eliminate inner wall wear. Based on some reading, the cars come from factory with some toe-in for better handling. The tow-in or zero toe are all within factory alignment range.
DWS, combined with zero toe, felt a bit different initially before getting used to it. Can't tell for sure if the tires or the alignment was the culprit. The car felt a bit softer and handling was a slightly worse. Anyhow, got used to it soon after. I put 20k miles on the Contis so far and the wear has been uniform with plenty of life remaining.
DWS, combined with zero toe, felt a bit different initially before getting used to it. Can't tell for sure if the tires or the alignment was the culprit. The car felt a bit softer and handling was a slightly worse. Anyhow, got used to it soon after. I put 20k miles on the Contis so far and the wear has been uniform with plenty of life remaining.
#19
My 2014 IS350 came with staggered 18" Bridgestone Turanza ER33 summer tires. Their performance was good but I had to replace them at 25k due to inner wall wear. I am in Houston so summer tire are OK for me. I ended up getting Conti DWS 06. I also did an alignment at the dealer and made sure that front wheels were set at zero toe to eliminate inner wall wear. Based on some reading, the cars come from factory with some toe-in for better handling. The tow-in or zero toe are all within factory alignment range.
DWS, combined with zero toe, felt a bit different initially before getting used to it. Can't tell for sure if the tires or the alignment was the culprit. The car felt a bit softer and handling was a slightly worse. Anyhow, got used to it soon after. I put 20k miles on the Contis so far and the wear has been uniform with plenty of life remaining.
DWS, combined with zero toe, felt a bit different initially before getting used to it. Can't tell for sure if the tires or the alignment was the culprit. The car felt a bit softer and handling was a slightly worse. Anyhow, got used to it soon after. I put 20k miles on the Contis so far and the wear has been uniform with plenty of life remaining.
Regarding setting the toe to zero, I dont think it will eliminate the front inner tire wear. The problem is the lower control arm bushing which is a soft rubber from the factory. And everytime you break or turn, the rubber flexes leading to the tires toe-out and inner tire wear. You can see a ton of videos on this on youtube. Also you can read about the RR racing LCA bushes for our cars which is meant to control the toe out under braking and turns. The reason the tire wear is controlled in your case now is that the tires are all-seasons which dont wear out so fast.
#20
So the DWS06 are all-seasons. So they are harder compound. I noticed when I switched from summer to all-seasons that the steering wheel became lighter as the tires are not so sticky anymore. As for the tire wear, you are lucky you got 25K miles on the stocks. Mine were done at 10K.
Regarding setting the toe to zero, I dont think it will eliminate the front inner tire wear. The problem is the lower control arm bushing which is a soft rubber from the factory. And everytime you break or turn, the rubber flexes leading to the tires toe-out and inner tire wear. You can see a ton of videos on this on youtube. Also you can read about the RR racing LCA bushes for our cars which is meant to control the toe out under braking and turns. The reason the tire wear is controlled in your case now is that the tires are all-seasons which dont wear out so fast.
Regarding setting the toe to zero, I dont think it will eliminate the front inner tire wear. The problem is the lower control arm bushing which is a soft rubber from the factory. And everytime you break or turn, the rubber flexes leading to the tires toe-out and inner tire wear. You can see a ton of videos on this on youtube. Also you can read about the RR racing LCA bushes for our cars which is meant to control the toe out under braking and turns. The reason the tire wear is controlled in your case now is that the tires are all-seasons which dont wear out so fast.
So I do think toe makes a difference, but I wouldn't just change it. It should be 0 under most conditions. I think for me it makes sense since I don't drive at highway speeds all that often.
#21
I have tried several all seasons, including the Michelins. The Conti DWS has had by far the greatest tread life of the bunch. It is also MUCH quieter than Michelin and handles moderate snow well.
#22
I am also in the need of new tires. All season.
my car came with a Bridgestone Turanza EL400 - 02
I'm just curious... Are these tires not good? Any particular reason why I should go with a different brand?
I live in Illinois
my car came with a Bridgestone Turanza EL400 - 02
I'm just curious... Are these tires not good? Any particular reason why I should go with a different brand?
I live in Illinois
#23
For what it's worth I think the IS performs reasonably well with the tires, but the low treadwear rating of 260 remains an issue.
#24
From the sounds of it I have to look at the Conti DWS for tread wear and quiet ride or the Michelin for handling and superior performance in winter. Tough choices.
Thanks everyone for your feedback
Thanks everyone for your feedback
#25
I just pulled the trigger on the BFGoodrich G-Force Comp-2 A/S. Turns out the inner wear was getting pretty bad on the fronts again, but I decided to just go ahead and replace all four. Will let you guys know how they are!
#26
i have the comp 2 a/s for a few years now. you'll notice right off the bat, shorter stopping distance and they stick like glue in turns. DWS are better in the snow but they don't handle well and steering feel is numb.
#27
My oem front petenzas burned through the inside in 9k. Ridiculous for a car of this caliber. Throwing a set of Goodyear’s on until I can get new/stiffer bushings. Dealer says it’s out of alignment. Standard excuse. Anyone else experiencing that drastic of tire wear? With normal commuter driving?
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#28
My oem front petenzas burned through the inside in 9k. Ridiculous for a car of this caliber. Throwing a set of Goodyear’s on until I can get new/stiffer bushings. Dealer says it’s out of alignment. Standard excuse. Anyone else experiencing that drastic of tire wear? With normal commuter driving?
#29
May pull the trigger on the aftermarket bushings.. stiffer ride but it keeps the tire from toe-ing in, therefore saving the front tires.
I also want to see if lexus’s Spec settings for alignment have the tire cambered. Corvettes will be set like that for track mode but not for street.