Brakes-the joke is on me
08-30-18 | 07:56 AM
#31
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Doesn't matter. I installed the ACT's on my '18 IS350 F-Sport AWD.
08-30-18 | 12:25 PM
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Normal rotors can only tolerate about 2-3 mm of combined wear (inner and outer) before needing replaced anyway. I never understood shaving off good metal to get a smooth surface when all you are doing is shortening the life of the rotor. To me, if the rotor is badly grooved just replace it. If its worn, replace it. But if it's smooth and has life left, change your pads and press on. This is why I went to replacing my own pads and rotors - got tired of the shops telling me they wouldn't do a pad replacement without resurfacing.
And +1 on the ACTs - love mine, glad I did it.
08-30-18 | 12:29 PM
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I may be in the minority, or I may be very very wrong, but I think resurfacing rotors is largely unnecessary and just an excuse for brake shops to charge more for pad replacements. Unless you had some kind of really expensive rotor with a lot of metal on it.
Normal rotors can only tolerate about 2-3 mm of combined wear (inner and outer) before needing replaced anyway. I never understood shaving off good metal to get a smooth surface when all you are doing is shortening the life of the rotor. To me, if the rotor is badly grooved just replace it. If its worn, replace it. But if it's smooth and has life left, change your pads and press on. This is why I went to replacing my own pads and rotors - got tired of the shops telling me they wouldn't do a pad replacement without resurfacing.
And +1 on the ACTs - love mine, glad I did it.
Normal rotors can only tolerate about 2-3 mm of combined wear (inner and outer) before needing replaced anyway. I never understood shaving off good metal to get a smooth surface when all you are doing is shortening the life of the rotor. To me, if the rotor is badly grooved just replace it. If its worn, replace it. But if it's smooth and has life left, change your pads and press on. This is why I went to replacing my own pads and rotors - got tired of the shops telling me they wouldn't do a pad replacement without resurfacing.
And +1 on the ACTs - love mine, glad I did it.
08-30-18 | 12:48 PM
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I made it to about 34k miles on my original front brake pads and rotors before being replaced. Lexus, Toyota, and an independent brake shop all recommended replacing just the fronts. The rears are still good. I do drive mine "like I stole it" so the fact that I made it to 34k is good. Original owner 2014 IS250 FSport.
08-30-18 | 10:56 PM
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You guys pulled a fast one on me, but I'm a good sport, I can take a joke.
2014 IS 350 F Sport. All this talk about the brakes needing new pads after only 12K miles or so got me a little concerned since I'm up to about 34K, so I ordered new pads and they arrived yesterday. I was going to wait until Sunday to do the work, but it's supposed to be such an easy job that I decided to do it this afternoon when I got home.
First, the non-joke part. It is supposed to be a quick and easy job and I agree completely with that opinion. Pull a clip, tap out a pin, and slide out the pads. Nothing to it.
Now the joke part. You had me convinced that at 34K I would desperately need new pads. Ha, ha, ha. Like I said, I can take a joke. I pulled a pad out, compared it to the new pads and put the old pad back in the car. I'm sure the old pads will be good for another 20K if not more.
I'm old and I drive like a grandpa, but you guys must be really hotrodding your cars.
2014 IS 350 F Sport. All this talk about the brakes needing new pads after only 12K miles or so got me a little concerned since I'm up to about 34K, so I ordered new pads and they arrived yesterday. I was going to wait until Sunday to do the work, but it's supposed to be such an easy job that I decided to do it this afternoon when I got home.
First, the non-joke part. It is supposed to be a quick and easy job and I agree completely with that opinion. Pull a clip, tap out a pin, and slide out the pads. Nothing to it.
Now the joke part. You had me convinced that at 34K I would desperately need new pads. Ha, ha, ha. Like I said, I can take a joke. I pulled a pad out, compared it to the new pads and put the old pad back in the car. I'm sure the old pads will be good for another 20K if not more.
I'm old and I drive like a grandpa, but you guys must be really hotrodding your cars.
12-23-18 | 09:45 PM
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I was having this problem last year when I purchased my 2017 RCF, but I found a TSB where I could get the original pads replaced with pads that generated less brake dust. A year and a half later, I am very satisfied with the pads on my car.
Does Lexus have any TSB that applies to 2018 IS 350’s with regards the replacing pads that create excessive brake dust? If not, I will probably change over to Akebono pads as I don’t want to be washing her wheels every weekend.
Any advice would be appreciated. We are now a Lexus family with his and hers
12-24-18 | 12:50 AM
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Any source recos for the Akebonos? Maybe worth replacing all four corners instead of just fronts, for dust and performance alone?
12-24-18 | 12:55 AM
#39
My wife just got a 2018 IS 350 F-sport in Ultra White (red interior) a week ago. She drove only about 100 miles and the wheels are absolutely covered in brake dust.
I was having this problem last year when I purchased my 2017 RCF, but I found a TSB where I could get the original pads replaced with pads that generated less brake dust. A year and a half later, I am very satisfied with the pads on my car.
Does Lexus have any TSB that applies to 2018 IS 350’s with regards the replacing pads that create excessive brake dust? If not, I will probably change over to Akebono pads as I don’t want to be washing her wheels every weekend.
Any advice would be appreciated. We are now a Lexus family with his and hers
12-24-18 | 02:34 AM
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[QUOTE=TonyN;10392303]the TSB replaces the black F pad with blue pads which is low dust and less initial bite, im running the blue pad and I wont go back, for my driving style i notice no negative effects[/QUOTE
Can you please post a copy of the TSB that covers the 2018 IS350? I would love to replace the front and rear pads
12-24-18 | 10:57 PM
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You guys pulled a fast one on me, but I'm a good sport, I can take a joke.
2014 IS 350 F Sport. All this talk about the brakes needing new pads after only 12K miles or so got me a little concerned since I'm up to about 34K, so I ordered new pads and they arrived yesterday. I was going to wait until Sunday to do the work, but it's supposed to be such an easy job that I decided to do it this afternoon when I got home.
First, the non-joke part. It is supposed to be a quick and easy job and I agree completely with that opinion. Pull a clip, tap out a pin, and slide out the pads. Nothing to it.
Now the joke part. You had me convinced that at 34K I would desperately need new pads. Ha, ha, ha. Like I said, I can take a joke. I pulled a pad out, compared it to the new pads and put the old pad back in the car. I'm sure the old pads will be good for another 20K if not more.
I'm old and I drive like a grandpa, but you guys must be really hotrodding your cars.
2014 IS 350 F Sport. All this talk about the brakes needing new pads after only 12K miles or so got me a little concerned since I'm up to about 34K, so I ordered new pads and they arrived yesterday. I was going to wait until Sunday to do the work, but it's supposed to be such an easy job that I decided to do it this afternoon when I got home.
First, the non-joke part. It is supposed to be a quick and easy job and I agree completely with that opinion. Pull a clip, tap out a pin, and slide out the pads. Nothing to it.
Now the joke part. You had me convinced that at 34K I would desperately need new pads. Ha, ha, ha. Like I said, I can take a joke. I pulled a pad out, compared it to the new pads and put the old pad back in the car. I'm sure the old pads will be good for another 20K if not more.
I'm old and I drive like a grandpa, but you guys must be really hotrodding your cars.
Also, you can't just throw on pads. You need to resurface the rotors, which you won't be able to do at home.
12-25-18 | 11:56 AM
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He does not need to resurface rotors. When they're worn out he should buy new ones. This is not a corolla. I came from owning BMW's for more than a decade and BMW never recommends resurfacing rotors but i noticed people who drive Asian cars always advocating resurfacing of rotors.
12-25-18 | 02:57 PM
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He does not need to resurface rotors. When they're worn out he should buy new ones. This is not a corolla. I came from owning BMW's for more than a decade and BMW never recommends resurfacing rotors but i noticed people who drive Asian cars always advocating resurfacing of rotors.
If they are in that bad of shape that turning is "needed" then they should be replaced. I'm about to go in for service and get mine done at the same time, but they said they will charge the same 1.5 whether I have the rotors turned or replaced, NOT including the price of parts. They also said they won't just replace pads, the rotors have to be done. Very tempting to just say "forget it" and simply put the new pads in myself. Doesn't even require removal of the calipers.
12-25-18 | 06:35 PM
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He does not need to resurface rotors. When they're worn out he should buy new ones. This is not a corolla. I came from owning BMW's for more than a decade and BMW never recommends resurfacing rotors but i noticed people who drive Asian cars always advocating resurfacing of rotors.