10.25 Inch Display Android Car Radio GPS Navigation Head Unit from 4x4Shop.ca
05-06-20, 03:27 AM
#1501
I too was going to purchase the older model and even paid for it but cancelled as soon as I realised. It was 4gb ram but only 480p resolution and didn't have a sim card slot.
Some members say you won't notice a difference but I notice a huge difference coming from a 480p resolution screen in my Mercedes C class which I also installed a kit so I can run apps on it. For everyday usage there isn't much difference but if you watch youtube or a video clip the difference is night and day.
Last edited by LFields; 05-06-20 at 03:43 AM.
05-06-20, 07:15 AM
#1502
Driver School Candidate
Some members say you won't notice a difference but I notice a huge difference coming from a 480p resolution screen in my Mercedes C class which I also installed a kit so I can run apps on it. For everyday usage there isn't much difference but if you watch youtube or a video clip the difference is night and day.
10.25 inch screen with 1920*720 resolution has 200 pixels per inch (PPI)
10.25 inch screen with 1280*480 resolution has 133 pixels per inch (PPI)
But the funny thing is that it is scientifically proven many years ago, that person with absolutely ideal eyesight can see a maximum of 300 ppi from a distance of about 10 inches away from your eyes. The more is distance - less individual pixels you can see.
Do you like Apple Retina display? It is perfect, righ? But do you know that iPad pro 12.9 inch display at viewing distance of 13 inches and 10.25 Lexus display at a viewing distance of 26 inches will be absolutely identical for human eyes? And this is not just blah blah - this is scientific researcheas and even Apple confirms this.
There are dozens of calculators in internet....For example this calculator will allow you to calcualte at what viewing distance display of particular size and resolution will become "retina display": https://www.designcompaniesranked.co...s-this-retina/
What is the lexus 10.25 display vieweng distance? It is more or less distance which makes it look like famous apple retina display
Unfortunately nobody knows anything about this, everybody wants latest of the latest, biggest of the bigges stuff without any elementary understanding on what its for and how it works.....Such type of people are typical "marketing victim" and only for such type of people smarphone manufacturers offer phones with incredible resolutions and 600, 700 etc PPI while at a typical smartphone vieweng distance (about 10 inches) person with eagle eyesight may see only 300 PPI
So, 720 and 480 lexus radios from their actual viewing distance are absolutely same. 720 screen would only be slightly better at a viewing distance of 10 inches, but I cant imagine how you will use it in the car at such distance.
BUT!!! The pixel density is only one of many parameters contributing to the image quality. Other equally important parameters can make a monitor look sharp or soft even with the same pixel density: type of display, surface treatment of the display itself, addition of anti-reflective optical glass or bonded-glass , pixels arrangements and pitch, processing technology and speed, backlight technology etc...
And your Mercedes unit looks worse due to this parameters and not due to resolution. If you take one of these lexus units with 480 resolution and comapre to your Mercedes unit with same 480 resolution - it will be day and night too....
Just compare 2 particual units for Lexus IS - with 720 and 480 resolutions and you will see no differece at all beause in paticulary this case 720 or 480 resolution plays no role at all and other parameters contributing to the image quality are more or less the same.
Last edited by EugeneIS; 05-06-20 at 07:18 AM.
05-06-20, 10:30 AM
#1503
Being familiar with this deeply enough, would just say that display resolution is about display desity (pixels per inch) only.
10.25 inch screen with 1920*720 resolution has 200 pixels per inch (PPI)
10.25 inch screen with 1280*480 resolution has 133 pixels per inch (PPI)
But the funny thing is that it is scientifically proven many years ago, that person with absolutely ideal eyesight can see a maximum of 300 ppi from a distance of about 10 inches away from your eyes. The more is distance - less individual pixels you can see.
Do you like Apple Retina display? It is perfect, righ? But do you know that iPad pro 12.9 inch display at viewing distance of 13 inches and 10.25 Lexus display at a viewing distance of 26 inches will be absolutely identical for human eyes? And this is not just blah blah - this is scientific researcheas and even Apple confirms this.
There are dozens of calculators in internet....For example this calculator will allow you to calcualte at what viewing distance display of particular size and resolution will become "retina display": https://www.designcompaniesranked.co...s-this-retina/
What is the lexus 10.25 display vieweng distance? It is more or less distance which makes it look like famous apple retina display
Unfortunately nobody knows anything about this, everybody wants latest of the latest, biggest of the bigges stuff without any elementary understanding on what its for and how it works.....Such type of people are typical "marketing victim" and only for such type of people smarphone manufacturers offer phones with incredible resolutions and 600, 700 etc PPI while at a typical smartphone vieweng distance (about 10 inches) person with eagle eyesight may see only 300 PPI
So, 720 and 480 lexus radios from their actual viewing distance are absolutely same. 720 screen would only be slightly better at a viewing distance of 10 inches, but I cant imagine how you will use it in the car at such distance.
BUT!!! The pixel density is only one of many parameters contributing to the image quality. Other equally important parameters can make a monitor look sharp or soft even with the same pixel density: type of display, surface treatment of the display itself, addition of anti-reflective optical glass or bonded-glass , pixels arrangements and pitch, processing technology and speed, backlight technology etc...
And your Mercedes unit looks worse due to this parameters and not due to resolution. If you take one of these lexus units with 480 resolution and comapre to your Mercedes unit with same 480 resolution - it will be day and night too....
Just compare 2 particual units for Lexus IS - with 720 and 480 resolutions and you will see no differece at all beause in paticulary this case 720 or 480 resolution plays no role at all and other parameters contributing to the image quality are more or less the same.
10.25 inch screen with 1920*720 resolution has 200 pixels per inch (PPI)
10.25 inch screen with 1280*480 resolution has 133 pixels per inch (PPI)
But the funny thing is that it is scientifically proven many years ago, that person with absolutely ideal eyesight can see a maximum of 300 ppi from a distance of about 10 inches away from your eyes. The more is distance - less individual pixels you can see.
Do you like Apple Retina display? It is perfect, righ? But do you know that iPad pro 12.9 inch display at viewing distance of 13 inches and 10.25 Lexus display at a viewing distance of 26 inches will be absolutely identical for human eyes? And this is not just blah blah - this is scientific researcheas and even Apple confirms this.
There are dozens of calculators in internet....For example this calculator will allow you to calcualte at what viewing distance display of particular size and resolution will become "retina display": https://www.designcompaniesranked.co...s-this-retina/
What is the lexus 10.25 display vieweng distance? It is more or less distance which makes it look like famous apple retina display
Unfortunately nobody knows anything about this, everybody wants latest of the latest, biggest of the bigges stuff without any elementary understanding on what its for and how it works.....Such type of people are typical "marketing victim" and only for such type of people smarphone manufacturers offer phones with incredible resolutions and 600, 700 etc PPI while at a typical smartphone vieweng distance (about 10 inches) person with eagle eyesight may see only 300 PPI
So, 720 and 480 lexus radios from their actual viewing distance are absolutely same. 720 screen would only be slightly better at a viewing distance of 10 inches, but I cant imagine how you will use it in the car at such distance.
BUT!!! The pixel density is only one of many parameters contributing to the image quality. Other equally important parameters can make a monitor look sharp or soft even with the same pixel density: type of display, surface treatment of the display itself, addition of anti-reflective optical glass or bonded-glass , pixels arrangements and pitch, processing technology and speed, backlight technology etc...
And your Mercedes unit looks worse due to this parameters and not due to resolution. If you take one of these lexus units with 480 resolution and comapre to your Mercedes unit with same 480 resolution - it will be day and night too....
Just compare 2 particual units for Lexus IS - with 720 and 480 resolutions and you will see no differece at all beause in paticulary this case 720 or 480 resolution plays no role at all and other parameters contributing to the image quality are more or less the same.
On a side note the wife has got the iPhone 11 Pro and I have the Samsung Galaxy S20 and although Samsung make Apple screens there is still a difference in screen quality which again is noticeable and the ppi on the Samsung is alot higher so I don't know if there is more to it but I can definitely see a difference between screen quality.
Last edited by LFields; 05-06-20 at 10:33 AM.
05-06-20, 10:38 AM
#1504
Driver School Candidate
Does anyone with the new 4x4 screen know how to get back to the android side, without touching the screen?
Oh, and I was totally wrong... If you are on the Lexus side and turn off the car, when you turn it back on the Lexus side comes up automatically
Oh, and I was totally wrong... If you are on the Lexus side and turn off the car, when you turn it back on the Lexus side comes up automatically
05-06-20, 10:45 AM
#1505
Pole Position
EDIT: just noticed you said back to Android haha. You hold the menu button and it should get you back to the android side.
Last edited by Flash5; 05-06-20 at 11:01 AM.
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Soljarag (05-07-20)
05-06-20, 11:00 AM
#1506
There should be an OEM/Lexus icon on the Android side
05-06-20, 02:21 PM
#1507
They must of sent you the old version hoping you wouldn't notice because I purchased from them and mine is definitely 1920x720. Does yours have the split screen feature? (instructions afew pages up on how to check). And is it 4gb ram?
I too was going to purchase the older model and even paid for it but cancelled as soon as I realised. It was 4gb ram but only 480p resolution and didn't have a sim card slot.
Some members say you won't notice a difference but I notice a huge difference coming from a 480p resolution screen in my Mercedes C class which I also installed a kit so I can run apps on it. For everyday usage there isn't much difference but if you watch youtube or a video clip the difference is night and day.
I too was going to purchase the older model and even paid for it but cancelled as soon as I realised. It was 4gb ram but only 480p resolution and didn't have a sim card slot.
Some members say you won't notice a difference but I notice a huge difference coming from a 480p resolution screen in my Mercedes C class which I also installed a kit so I can run apps on it. For everyday usage there isn't much difference but if you watch youtube or a video clip the difference is night and day.
I do have split screen as well.
05-06-20, 03:14 PM
#1508
05-06-20, 04:59 PM
#1509
Being familiar with this deeply enough, would just say that display resolution is about display desity (pixels per inch) only.
10.25 inch screen with 1920*720 resolution has 200 pixels per inch (PPI)
10.25 inch screen with 1280*480 resolution has 133 pixels per inch (PPI)
But the funny thing is that it is scientifically proven many years ago, that person with absolutely ideal eyesight can see a maximum of 300 ppi from a distance of about 10 inches away from your eyes. The more is distance - less individual pixels you can see.
Do you like Apple Retina display? It is perfect, righ? But do you know that iPad pro 12.9 inch display at viewing distance of 13 inches and 10.25 Lexus display at a viewing distance of 26 inches will be absolutely identical for human eyes? And this is not just blah blah - this is scientific researcheas and even Apple confirms this.
There are dozens of calculators in internet....For example this calculator will allow you to calcualte at what viewing distance display of particular size and resolution will become "retina display": https://www.designcompaniesranked.co...s-this-retina/
What is the lexus 10.25 display vieweng distance? It is more or less distance which makes it look like famous apple retina display
Unfortunately nobody knows anything about this, everybody wants latest of the latest, biggest of the bigges stuff without any elementary understanding on what its for and how it works.....Such type of people are typical "marketing victim" and only for such type of people smarphone manufacturers offer phones with incredible resolutions and 600, 700 etc PPI while at a typical smartphone vieweng distance (about 10 inches) person with eagle eyesight may see only 300 PPI
So, 720 and 480 lexus radios from their actual viewing distance are absolutely same. 720 screen would only be slightly better at a viewing distance of 10 inches, but I cant imagine how you will use it in the car at such distance.
BUT!!! The pixel density is only one of many parameters contributing to the image quality. Other equally important parameters can make a monitor look sharp or soft even with the same pixel density: type of display, surface treatment of the display itself, addition of anti-reflective optical glass or bonded-glass , pixels arrangements and pitch, processing technology and speed, backlight technology etc...
And your Mercedes unit looks worse due to this parameters and not due to resolution. If you take one of these lexus units with 480 resolution and comapre to your Mercedes unit with same 480 resolution - it will be day and night too....
Just compare 2 particular units for Lexus IS - with 720 and 480 resolutions and you will see no differece at all beause in paticulary this case 720 or 480 resolution plays no role at all and other parameters contributing to the image quality are more or less the same.
10.25 inch screen with 1920*720 resolution has 200 pixels per inch (PPI)
10.25 inch screen with 1280*480 resolution has 133 pixels per inch (PPI)
But the funny thing is that it is scientifically proven many years ago, that person with absolutely ideal eyesight can see a maximum of 300 ppi from a distance of about 10 inches away from your eyes. The more is distance - less individual pixels you can see.
Do you like Apple Retina display? It is perfect, righ? But do you know that iPad pro 12.9 inch display at viewing distance of 13 inches and 10.25 Lexus display at a viewing distance of 26 inches will be absolutely identical for human eyes? And this is not just blah blah - this is scientific researcheas and even Apple confirms this.
There are dozens of calculators in internet....For example this calculator will allow you to calcualte at what viewing distance display of particular size and resolution will become "retina display": https://www.designcompaniesranked.co...s-this-retina/
What is the lexus 10.25 display vieweng distance? It is more or less distance which makes it look like famous apple retina display
Unfortunately nobody knows anything about this, everybody wants latest of the latest, biggest of the bigges stuff without any elementary understanding on what its for and how it works.....Such type of people are typical "marketing victim" and only for such type of people smarphone manufacturers offer phones with incredible resolutions and 600, 700 etc PPI while at a typical smartphone vieweng distance (about 10 inches) person with eagle eyesight may see only 300 PPI
So, 720 and 480 lexus radios from their actual viewing distance are absolutely same. 720 screen would only be slightly better at a viewing distance of 10 inches, but I cant imagine how you will use it in the car at such distance.
BUT!!! The pixel density is only one of many parameters contributing to the image quality. Other equally important parameters can make a monitor look sharp or soft even with the same pixel density: type of display, surface treatment of the display itself, addition of anti-reflective optical glass or bonded-glass , pixels arrangements and pitch, processing technology and speed, backlight technology etc...
And your Mercedes unit looks worse due to this parameters and not due to resolution. If you take one of these lexus units with 480 resolution and comapre to your Mercedes unit with same 480 resolution - it will be day and night too....
Just compare 2 particular units for Lexus IS - with 720 and 480 resolutions and you will see no differece at all beause in paticulary this case 720 or 480 resolution plays no role at all and other parameters contributing to the image quality are more or less the same.
Yeah...But on paper and actually looking at the screens are two different things... According to 'science' a person can't see more than 30FPS..but go look at something in motion on a high refresh rate screen and compare it to a more standard refresh rate display...There is a pretty big difference there.
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05-06-20, 06:54 PM
#1510
Yeah...But on paper and actually looking at the screens are two different things... According to 'science' a person can't see more than 30FPS..but go look at something in motion on a high refresh rate screen and compare it to a more standard refresh rate display...There is a pretty big difference there.
Last edited by LFields; 05-06-20 at 07:22 PM.
05-06-20, 07:33 PM
#1511
But since I'm driving, it's just a few glances so it looks good to me. And when it comes down to it, it's a hell of an improvement over stock.
05-06-20, 07:36 PM
#1512
Of course i would. I'm just not the most handy person out there LOL. And since you've installed it on your car, you would know how to do it too unlike a shop where they probably have never touched this thing in their life. I'm pretty serious on my offer too. When this damn virus is over if you really are down to help, I'll pay to have you help me install.
Do you have an iPhone? I highly recommend the wireless Apple CarPlay dongle.
05-06-20, 07:51 PM
#1513
Tbh I think the only way you would be able to tell is if you had them side by side which will probably never happen so it is all good, and as you mention it is way better than stock. Only way I can tell is because I used to watch youtube in my merc and now I tried it on the lexus screen and have the HD option which is alot clearer when comparing. Time passes alot quicker when waiting for the wife to come out lol
05-06-20, 08:15 PM
#1514
Tbh I think the only way you would be able to tell is if you had them side by side which will probably never happen so it is all good, and as you mention it is way better than stock. Only way I can tell is because I used to watch youtube in my merc and now I tried it on the lexus screen and have the HD option which is alot clearer when comparing. Time passes alot quicker when waiting for the wife to come out lol
i haven’t touched my car since Sunday so I haven’t had a chance to go through YouTube or videos yet.
