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Old 11-21-18, 02:33 PM
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Got mine replaced at 17k and I am a pretty conservative driver. I went with the Akebono pads and don't have to deal with the dust anymore.
Old 11-22-18, 10:28 AM
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replaced my pads and rotors at 14k. put in akebono pads. don't recommend resurfacing, you'll be back in the shop in no time to replace them.
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Originally Posted by premier3IS
replaced my pads and rotors at 14k. put in akebono pads. don't recommend resurfacing, you'll be back in the shop in no time to replace them.
How long do Akebono ASPs last. Hopefully 20-25k vs the 10-15k I've been getting.
Old 11-23-18, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
How long do Akebono ASPs last. Hopefully 20-25k vs the 10-15k I've been getting.
They should last at least 20k I would think. Obviously depends on your driving habits too. Under normal daily driving I would think 20k minimum. I put mine on at like 3000 miles I think and now I’m at almost 9000 so it’s too early to tell for me.
Old 11-24-18, 05:35 AM
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Do the Akeboni or even the non f-sport squeal at all when the pads are cold?

I live in Canada and with the tempetures dropping my pad are squealing all the time now.... even after they have been warmed up. I just had the breaks services to. Might take it in again to have them look. At least last year it was only when they were cold. It’s driving me nuts
Old 11-24-18, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MadmanJay
Do the Akeboni or even the non f-sport squeal at all when the pads are cold?

I live in Canada and with the tempetures dropping my pad are squealing all the time now.... even after they have been warmed up. I just had the breaks services to. Might take it in again to have them look. At least last year it was only when they were cold. It’s driving me nuts
My Akebono pads are squealing now that it's cold. Only for my initial brake though. Immediately after that it's gone. Loud squeal though.
Old 11-26-18, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by arentz07
You should check the rotor thickness before resurfacing. I got mine resurfaced at about 14k miles if I recall correctly. Still going at 24k miles now.

I also have the F Sport pads, still going on those as well. I think how long they last is really all down to your driving conditions. I don't see a lot of traffic and don't drive the car hard (often).
Perfectly stated.

Originally Posted by E46CT
every 15k. The professional high friction pads on the F Sport (Made in Germany) eat away quickly, and eat away at the rotors.
This is it right here. The pads they are using make the car feel like it brakes fantastically, at the expense of eating the rotor.

Originally Posted by Sybaritic
You can re-surface if you don't want to spend the up front money, but chances are, halfway into your second set of pads, the rotors may start warping.
It's actually rare that rotors warp anymore. What causes the pulsing that people feel is actually deposits on the rotor from the pad. A lot of places won't tell you this, and just resurface the rotor so you'll have to buy new ones in a few thousand miles, when all the while you could have just did a light scuffing to fix it.

This is many times caused by people being unhappy with how long the stock pads last, buying some lifetime crap pad at Autozone or similar, and getting deposits on the rotor.

The real solution here is to choose a pad (when the car is new) that best suits your driving habits. For most, a high-quality, low-dust, quiet ceramic pad like the G-Loc will work fantastic, last 50,000+ miles, and not damage the rotor at all.
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Originally Posted by VisualEcho
Perfectly stated.



This is it right here. The pads they are using make the car feel like it brakes fantastically, at the expense of eating the rotor.



It's actually rare that rotors warp anymore. What causes the pulsing that people feel is actually deposits on the rotor from the pad. A lot of places won't tell you this, and just resurface the rotor so you'll have to buy new ones in a few thousand miles, when all the while you could have just did a light scuffing to fix it.

This is many times caused by people being unhappy with how long the stock pads last, buying some lifetime crap pad at Autozone or similar, and getting deposits on the rotor.

The real solution here is to choose a pad (when the car is new) that best suits your driving habits. For most, a high-quality, low-dust, quiet ceramic pad like the G-Loc will work fantastic, last 50,000+ miles, and not damage the rotor at all.
Is there a specific model for brake pads from G-Loc?
Old 11-30-18, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lychee416
Is there a specific model for brake pads from G-Loc?
GS-1 street pad.

http://www.g-locbrakes.com/products/brake-pads/search/

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Originally Posted by lychee416
When do people usually replace rotors? So resurfacing rotors is not as good as buying new ones? I thought it is cheaper to resurface the rotors.
that will depend on the rotors . Lexus is350 2015 f sport rotors (oe) cost 75 and change per piece on lexuspartsnow + delivery (10-20 bucks). Resurfacing at firestone (as quoted to me by one of their specialists) would be 195 bucks for both without tax. So, no reason to even resurface them.
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Originally Posted by sunamer

that will depend on the rotors . Lexus is350 2015 f sport rotors (oe) cost 75 and change per piece on lexuspartsnow + delivery (10-20 bucks). Resurfacing at firestone (as quoted to me by one of their specialists) would be 195 bucks for both without tax. So, no reason to even resurface them.
Honestly, with basic hand tools, a jack and a couple of jack stands you can easily remove the rotors and get them resurfaced at just about any parts store for less than $20 each. My local Fisher Auto Parts does it for $12 each.

So I agree with you, if you're going to pay someone to do the work, then don't even bother, just get new ones. But if you're even a basic DIY'er, then you can get it done super cheap.

I think this tutorial would make it easy for anyone.

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Hmm. I did not know part stores could do that. Thanks! I will ask around. I would definetely try that. Resurfacing for 20 bucks a piece, before throwing away perfectly good rotors with a lot of thickness left... that is definetely worth a try for me.
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Originally Posted by sunamer
Hmm. I did not know part stores could do that. Thanks! I will ask around. I would definetely try that. Resurfacing for 20 bucks a piece, before throwing away perfectly good rotors with a lot of thickness left... that is definetely worth a try for me.
I only know because I used to work for Fisher auto parts. Definitely worth a shot it's so cheap. And even the guys that are tentative about it, once they watch that video, it's really a piece of cake. I think I can do mine on my old TL in less than 10 minutes per side.
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For those who will use the above video to do their front brakes, three things I don't like in the video.
1). No use of a torque wrench to attach the caliper. I bet he didn't reach the torque requirement of 100 ft-lbs using a 3/8 inch ratchet.
2). Did not clean rotor right before wheel assembly. Some of the anti-seize/grease on the gloves ended up on the rotor surface during assembly; you can see in 4:45 mark in video.
3). Would not have used that much anti-seize on the hub. You do not want the excess to end up on the rotor or wheel bearings over time.
4). New part usage is subjective, but I would use OE rotors. Fair price and you know no quality issues that you could get overtime with aftermarket cross drilled rotors such as cracking.

My suggestion is read and watch several tutorials and determine best practice before doing your own maintenance.

Back to the thread: My opinion is to purchase new OE rotors and akebono pads to dramatically reduce brake dust. Lots of good information in the forum on brake pads.
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Some of you are quoting crazy prices. A decent brake shop put on my new brakes and resurfaced my rotors for a total of $120. I've had Akebono ASPs for a month now and love them. Can't tell the difference between them and the F Sport pads with no brake dust.


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