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I agree with you here- the B58 is a great platform no doubt about it. I believe it will make 450-500hp with a tune & full bolt on.
With time we will be able to tell the full potential of the car
The new Supra is 3,397 lbs, the weight is a bit disappointing. Not the heaviest car in the world but I was hoping for 3,100, maybe 3,200 lbs.
but with great power comes great responsibility. the car is extraordinarily rigid (around 40,000 nM/degree torsional rigidity) and beefy drivetrain as per usual with BMW. Axles thicker than your wrists, heavy 8AT, beefy driveshaft, brakes, etc. all adds up =/ And a carbon chassis was probably out of the question for a 50k sports car. i feel it will still have good potential though. maybe some carbon parts for aftermarket!
It weighs 176 pounds less then the previous gen and adds 5 more hp getting it to 472hp I’d like to see if I can hang with it considering my 350 makes 439whp I think I could
It weighs 176 pounds less then the previous gen and adds 5 more hp getting it to 472hp I’d like to see if I can hang with it considering my 350 makes 439whp I think I could
After owning a MKIV for 10 years I’m waiting to see the MKV in person and see what the potential is, if it fails like the new NSX did then all it will do is drive the MKIV prices up
Yes, that's exactly what it looks like. I wonder if it will be plagued with reliability issues.
Since it's a BMW, I assume it does not have turn signals LOL.
Reliability is a two sided coin. A lot of japanese car fans don't get this. That's harder to do when you start to go up the power and feature chain (more on that later).
As far as this B58/ZF powertrain, I imagine it will have oil leaks later in life. that's about it. at some point, as with any turbo cars, the turbos will need replacing. The thing is japanese don't really have a mainstream modern high powered sports car. These days you have to have turbos and you have to have the complex cooling systems and drivetrain to back it up. so naturally and inherently sports cars will tend to be less reliable than your average family car. It's just the nature of the game when you want to push 4 second 0-60 times and be reasonably comfortable with gadgets. People shouldn't complain if they buy a sports car and they find they have to add oil to it, or replace bushings constantly, etc. There is a price to pay the better something performs. because everything good in life comes at a cost.
In the past, the germans have been less reliable than the japanese but that's because japanese (for better or for worse) recycle aging but reliable powertrains and tech. While germans tend to push the envelope as to gadgets, engines, complex variable valve timing systems, fuel systems, etc. I've said this before but now Lexus is starting to enter turbo territory. First the NX, the IS, the LS, the Supra, then the next IS. so it will get interesting to see if they can play the same game but more reliably.
Reliability is a two sided coin. A lot of japanese car fans don't get this. That's harder to do when you start to go up the power and feature chain (more on that later).
As far as this B58/ZF powertrain, I imagine it will have oil leaks later in life. that's about it. at some point, as with any turbo cars, the turbos will need replacing. The thing is japanese don't really have a mainstream modern high powered sports car. These days you have to have turbos and you have to have the complex cooling systems and drivetrain to back it up. so naturally and inherently sports cars will tend to be less reliable than your average family car. It's just the nature of the game when you want to push 4 second 0-60 times and be reasonably comfortable with gadgets. People shouldn't complain if they buy a sports car and they find they have to add oil to it, or replace bushings constantly, etc. There is a price to pay the better something performs. because everything good in life comes at a cost.
In the past, the germans have been less reliable than the japanese but that's because japanese (for better or for worse) recycle aging but reliable powertrains and tech. While germans tend to push the envelope as to gadgets, engines, complex variable valve timing systems, fuel systems, etc. I've said this before but now Lexus is starting to enter turbo territory. First the NX, the IS, the LS, the Supra, then the next IS. so it will get interesting to see if they can play the same game but more reliably.
All good points with some food for thought at the end. Much appreciated.
The Z4 version of this engine will apparently push 380 (rated crank) so there's plenty of safe wiggle room. I haven't followed car tuning for a while though so i have no idea what guys are up to these days. apparently theres this mobile app people are tuning their 340s with now. i dont know lol
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