Flash5

I'm talking I got full on ceramic coating on top of the PPF (IGL Kenzo ceramic paint coating). It is fine to ceramic coat PPF.

EZZ

There are new ceramic coats made especially for PPF these days. Supposedly, the ceramic coating made for paint isn't really optimized for PPF as PPF is much more flexible than paint as its built to self-heal. The ceramic coating for paint is extremely hard to help protect the clear coat while the ceramics for PPF are more malleable supposedly. So if anyone is interested, maybe ask your detailer if they have that option.

E46CT

Spending the money on PPF a depreciating asset which could be totaled the moment you go for a drive is not a good use of money.

If you buy the materials for super cheap (I mean super cheap) and DIY, then sure knock yourself out. But spending $2,000... i could think of much better ways to spend that.

Besides it's glaringly obvious when a car has PPF. Edges/outline/ car bikini tan after you peel it off later.

My friend's yellow Z06 looked like poo after we pulled off his PPF. Needed major paint correction due to the car bikini tan and even then it was still noticeable. He vowed to never use PPF again.

EZZ

Some paint quality is so soft that your car looks like crap after a week on California highways. The Lexus paint is actually pretty nice and looks okay after a couple years. PPF should be a requirement on some manufacturer cars.

websurfer

Sounds like 3M yellows. I had a strip that was 3M to avoid scratches and it yellow also.

LaZeR

Well what's the alternative -- remaining content with tons of nicks, dings, scratches, swirls, etc, on your car, and fading paint? Constantly touching up said damage doesn't look so hot, especially on the hood, doors, panels, bumpers, etc. PPF AVOIDS ALL of the above. $1k of PPF is only 2.5% of a $40k car. A full on quality paint job is at least around ~$3k. Also, if you're ever in the market to sell, a more pristine body/paint maximizes the selling price.

What reasons are there to "peel it off" after $1000 or $2000 of PPF? lol Isn't it pretty rare for owners to remove PPF after making such a major investment? If there's issues like air bubbles, or imprecisely cut areas, most people get their PPF corrected. Most PPF brands & installers offer a warranty. Fade/Tan lines are understandable, but once again, why'd anyone wanna remove already installed PPF?

Also previously asked about "yellowing", especially wrt 3M PPF. Has anyone else experienced this? It seems like the issue of discoloring paint after PPF applies more so to white cars, possibly somewhat evident on light colored cars, and if condensation happens to get in between the paint & PPF.

Flash5

It's been a year and my ceramic coating is still extremely effective on the front end of my car. It rains pretty often here and the water beads up and falls off instantly. My German detailer is highly experienced with PPF and ceramic coating etc so I trusted him to take care of it all and so far 0 issues.

Flash5

E46CT always says no to PPF because he wants to cheap out all the time based on his posts so there's that. You totally CANNOT tell my car has PPF unless you have your eye almost right against the paint and even then if you aren't a car person you probably wouldn't notice. I've had my Xpel on for 2 years and have only good things to say about it. 0 regrets and it's protected my paint from rock chips. As for the yellowing, it seems only 3M has that issue because all the other major reputable brands have 0 issues with yellowing.

websurfer

Is that hard to do the ceramic coating yourself on the PPF?

computerwi

Always had good experience with XPEL Ultimate PPF. No yellowing and self-healing capabilities. In Canada, with all the gravel they lay on the roads during the winter for traction, my car would have been pitted and rusted to hell by now. Even with PPF, some large rocks still manage to rip through them on the front bumper.

websurfer

Looking at the poll, over 46% doesn't think about doing PPF? Why is that? Cost?

LaZeR

The Majority of the population are not even aware or familiar with PPF, or barely give it a 2nd thought.

PPF is considered more so by car enthusiasts who purchase (i.e. NOT lease) luxury brands, and want to preserve their investments.

Personally speaking have a 2nd Gen GS300 still going strong (knock on wood *knock* *knock* *knock*), and looks good, but hate seeing so many nicks, dings, scratches, swirls, etc. When I got an IS350 FSport decided didn't want THAT to happen again hence PPF. Even got the doors covered lol

JBison73

Yeah, I knew nothing about PPF until 2018. Same with ceramic coatings

when I got my 2018 IS300 I got the the full front end/hood and side mirrors PPF

LaZeR

Installer & assistant came to my place in Los Angeles at 10am for extensive PPF on an IS350 and didn't leave until 10pm

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Go ALL IN on the hood. Don't PPF "partial" hood, or "1/3" hood, etc, do the FULL hood.

DO NOT ATTEMPT DIY PPF unless you have lotsa experience - even SMALL PIECES often result in a huge train wreck, inconvenience, waste of materials, time, & moola $$$, etc.