Fuel Pump Recall?
03-06-20 | 12:46 PM
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(or just a gas)
03-06-20 | 11:06 PM
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03-07-20 | 12:28 AM
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Yes, that was in the first article posted in this thread, but the second article which added additional models, left out the 200t’s.
At some point they’ll probably get a complete and concise list, or maybe they’ll just say “awe crap, if ya got a 3IS, just bring it in”.
At some point they’ll probably get a complete and concise list, or maybe they’ll just say “awe crap, if ya got a 3IS, just bring it in”.
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03-07-20 | 09:02 AM
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I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture as to how this will unfold.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
03-07-20 | 10:06 AM
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I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture as to how this will unfold.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
03-07-20 | 11:45 AM
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I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture as to how this will unfold.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
The first and most important thing is to let the public know there is a recall and what it entails...which if they(Toyota/Lexus) waited until parts were available, they would get blasted for.
This however puts them behind the eight ball cause now everyone wants their vehicle fixed now, but I'm not sure if everyone has accounted for the fact that the parts don't magically appear, but actually need to be manufactured.
So yes, they could hit print and send everyone their letter right now...but to what end. Everyone will call the dealer to book an appointment and the dealer will now tell you that there are no parts available yet...so now the dealer gets blasted.
My point being is that we need to just patiently wait until the letters go out, and parts become available, and then roll in to get it fixed.
And sure, of your vehicle actually does stall on the road, I would say that is cause for the dealer to perhaps put you at the top of the list for replacement.
I notice though that the 2014-2015 IS250 is not on the list...so I'm still hoping my car will make it on there. I haven't looked into part numbers yet, so I've been assuming it's the same pumps as the 350, but maybe not.
03-07-20 | 12:45 PM
#26
The update for the recall added many cars but also removed some cars from the list. Reading between the lines it seems the issue is not one of design but rather an improperly manufactured component within the fuel pumps during specific time periods.
The remedy will be a new fuel pump, though there may be an inspection procedure to determine if the pump installed was from a faulty batch. As far as notification vs. remedy, for safety recalls Toyota issues the notification of a recall much earlier than in other cases. For non-safety related recalls the customer notification process usually falls much more in line with the remedy being available.
Rental or loaner vehicles are available for owners who don’t want to drive their car until it is fixed.
Here is the current list from Lexus for which IS vehicles apply to the recall:
2014 IS F produced from mid Sept. 2013 to late Jul. 2014 (100 vehicles)
2014-2015 IS350 produced from early Sept. 2013 to late Feb. 2015 (13,500 vehicles)
2017 IS200t produced in early Oct. 2017 (10 vehicles)
2018-2019 IS300 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Jan. 2019 (26,800 vehicles, 30 unsold)
2018-2019 IS350 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Nov. 2018 (2,900 vehicles, 5 unsold)
Jeff
The remedy will be a new fuel pump, though there may be an inspection procedure to determine if the pump installed was from a faulty batch. As far as notification vs. remedy, for safety recalls Toyota issues the notification of a recall much earlier than in other cases. For non-safety related recalls the customer notification process usually falls much more in line with the remedy being available.
Rental or loaner vehicles are available for owners who don’t want to drive their car until it is fixed.
Here is the current list from Lexus for which IS vehicles apply to the recall:
2014 IS F produced from mid Sept. 2013 to late Jul. 2014 (100 vehicles)
2014-2015 IS350 produced from early Sept. 2013 to late Feb. 2015 (13,500 vehicles)
2017 IS200t produced in early Oct. 2017 (10 vehicles)
2018-2019 IS300 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Jan. 2019 (26,800 vehicles, 30 unsold)
2018-2019 IS350 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Nov. 2018 (2,900 vehicles, 5 unsold)
Jeff
03-07-20 | 01:00 PM
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The update for the recall added many cars but also removed some cars from the list. Reading between the lines it seems the issue is not one of design but rather an improperly manufactured component within the fuel pumps during specific time periods.
The remedy will be a new fuel pump, though there may be an inspection procedure to determine if the pump installed was from a faulty batch. As far as notification vs. remedy, for safety recalls Toyota issues the notification of a recall much earlier than in other cases. For non-safety related recalls the customer notification process usually falls much more in line with the remedy being available.
Rental or loaner vehicles are available for owners who don’t want to drive their car until it is fixed.
Here is the current list from Lexus for which IS vehicles apply to the recall:
2014 IS F produced from mid Sept. 2013 to late Jul. 2014 (100 vehicles)
2014-2015 IS350 produced from early Sept. 2013 to late Feb. 2015 (13,500 vehicles)
2017 IS200t produced in early Oct. 2017 (10 vehicles)
2018-2019 IS300 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Jan. 2019 (26,800 vehicles, 30 unsold)
2018-2019 IS350 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Nov. 2018 (2,900 vehicles, 5 unsold)
Jeff
The remedy will be a new fuel pump, though there may be an inspection procedure to determine if the pump installed was from a faulty batch. As far as notification vs. remedy, for safety recalls Toyota issues the notification of a recall much earlier than in other cases. For non-safety related recalls the customer notification process usually falls much more in line with the remedy being available.
Rental or loaner vehicles are available for owners who don’t want to drive their car until it is fixed.
Here is the current list from Lexus for which IS vehicles apply to the recall:
2014 IS F produced from mid Sept. 2013 to late Jul. 2014 (100 vehicles)
2014-2015 IS350 produced from early Sept. 2013 to late Feb. 2015 (13,500 vehicles)
2017 IS200t produced in early Oct. 2017 (10 vehicles)
2018-2019 IS300 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Jan. 2019 (26,800 vehicles, 30 unsold)
2018-2019 IS350 produced from early Oct. 2017 to late Nov. 2018 (2,900 vehicles, 5 unsold)
Jeff
Well, they updated the list once, who's to say it won't update again.
03-07-20 | 01:18 PM
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So looking at the list, every 2016 IS was excluded, and the 2014-2015 IS250 was also excluded...well that sucks, cause now I have to figure out why my car stalled 2 weeks ago out of the blue...crap LOL!
Well, they updated the list once, who's to say it won't update again.
Well, they updated the list once, who's to say it won't update again.
03-07-20 | 02:38 PM
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My exact thoughts. Service history shows my 2016 200t stalled on the highway with the previous owner and I experienced a bad hesitation making a left turn with oncoming traffic in prime position to T-bone me a couple of months ago. Wouldn’t be surprised if our model years end up on the list.
03-07-20 | 02:49 PM
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My bad hesitation happened only once in 20k miles so far, so I am not terribly concerned. I am unable to replicate so I think asking the dealer to look into it would be a waste of time unfortunately
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