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Not entirely. Newer 300s yes, but not the previous (V6 models).

LaZeR

OK, well even right now with coronavirus, let me know for how much $$$ you can find a Brand New, 2020, IS350 FSport, RWD (even cheaper), Atomic Silver, Red Interior, full NAV + Mark Levinson, Blind Spot Monitor/Cross Traffic Alert, and NEW FSport Rims, (and also preferably auto-closing side view mirrors if they have that now on FSport). What the heck - just post how much you THINK that'd go for.

Flash5

Because I’ve driven the 350. My previous car, 2011 Infiniti G37S, was more powerful and fun. Nissan/Infiniti’s aren’t reliable so I got rid of it at 80k miles so I wouldn’t have to deal with headaches. I didn’t get the IS 350 because I didn’t want another V6. Next question please.

EZZ

$42k The above specs were exactly the car I bought (mine was Grey) and it was $44k in 2015.

Flash5

New 300’s are still the V6 but only the AWD. The I4 Turbo is the RWD 300. That’s how you differentiate between the 4 banger 300 and the V6 300.

LaZeR

Ya well me too also exactly, but a CPO with 34k miles, for $35k, plus a car cover, and later 2 new complimentary Michelin tires, but the NEW FSport Rims add around $2k, (and I THINK they now have auto-closing side view mirrors), so anyway, NICE THOUGHTS & Good Luck!! hahahaha PS >>> hope you're familiar with the concept of "inflation"!!

premier3IS

The dealers gave us a deal since they knew the next idiot to talk through the door will most likely pay MSRP lol. And the guy before probably did too

Cant imagine paying 50k for that, good God.

EZZ

I understand inflation just as well as supply and demand

sunamer

I bet it was redline sofyan bey, who said it.

JBison73

Indeed it is. Even when he likes one of their cars, he still hates on the brand.

Restomod

Having owned numerous new(er) BMWs, I think the criticism is much about the infotainment and powertrain.

The infotainment is not horrible, but lacks some modern tech.

The Lexus powertrain criticism is mostly because of lack of power and MPG when compared to the competition....but that's not completely a bad thing.

Toyota/Lexus typically keep engine in use for an extended period typically because they work all the bugs out but is often seen as outdated....tradeoff is reliability. BMW for example often adds power/tweaks it's output but sometimes at the expense of reliability (their I-6s routinely have been very reliable outside of the HPFP fiasco). MPG goes along w/ this although Lexis uses DI and port injection to help reduce carbon buildup that BMW and Audis see despite increased MPG.

It's all a wash IMO, I traded slightly less sportiness for much more reliability for my DD and I'm ok with that personally.

LaZeR

But in the interim keep it as part of your moniker and refer to it as "premier" "3IS"?

NickCaesar

Specs I found have a 2012 G37s Coupe 6 speed doing a 5.6s 0-60 and a 13.8 quarter mile. Compared to a 350 awd that’s been tested at 5.3 and a 13.9. Also g37 has a 3.7L engine vs 3.5 and the 2GR-FSE actually makes more torque (277 vs 269). I’m assuming a G37s coupe would beat it at the track but I’m terms of straight line power they are basically neck and neck well until into a speed the average driver won’t reach.
They also both have identical 54/46 weight distribution and both weigh 3700 pounds and change. (Using 350 AWD as reference)

but I’m sure a G37s coupe with a 6 speed is certainly more fun.

Flash5

Yeah the stock figures aren’t drastically different, but I found the overall dynamics of the G37 to be more fun. It’s also imo much easier to milk power out of that VQ engine with a tune and FBO than the IS 350 from what I’ve seen.

NickCaesar

aftermarket support for VQ’s is nuts vs the 2gr-fse. G37s gets an LSD to. I test drove a G37xS and they’re actually really fun. That V6 reving to 7500rpm stock is wild. I still don’t get how there is virtually no aftermarket support for the 2GRFSE it’s been out since like 2006.