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Personally, I think the transmission is okay for what it is. Coming from my experiences with it and the "alleged" speeding I've done against other makes & models. its alright. However, the transmission does have a weakness and I get that. Its not no ZF8 after all. I think that's the part what I like about it though. I am hoping that Loi can do something about that speed limiter tho. Its a total kill joy lol.
However, the transmission does have a weakness and I get that. It’s not no ZF8 after all. I think that's the part what I like about it though.
Right on, it’s no ZF, but the car can/will perform against one. I’m always scanning for possible shenanigans…I mean…fun. 😈 If you’re part of the shenanigans club, you have to pay attention and at least be in the 4k-5k rev band. Otherwise, you’ll get dusted simply waiting on the transmission.
Right on, it’s no ZF, but the car can/will perform against one. I’m always scanning for possible shenanigans…I mean…fun. 😈 If you’re part of the shenanigans club, you have to pay attention and at least be in the 4k-5k rev band. Otherwise, you’ll get dusted simply waiting on the transmission.
Oh yea 2nd gear 40 roll I was in about 4.2-4.5k rpm. I mean allegedly I was in that range. With good tires it’s an amazing launch.
Right on, it’s no ZF, but the car can/will perform against one. I’m always scanning for possible shenanigans…I mean…fun. 😈 If you’re part of the shenanigans club, you have to pay attention and at least be in the 4k-5k rev band. Otherwise, you’ll get dusted simply waiting on the transmission.
Yep 100%. Sometimes I can get away at 3k, but I am that fella that did not know anything about the little snowflake switch behind the gas pedal. I am smashing to the pavement!
Yep 100%. Sometimes I can get away at 3k, but I am that fella that did not know anything about the little snowflake switch behind the gas pedal. I am smashing to the pavement!
LOL!! Right on. 😂👏🏽
Originally Posted by MYIS500
Did you go with 240's in the front, or did you stay with the 235's? It is looking like I might need tires very soon!
Nah…talked myself out of it. I’m still the A-Typical Lexus owner first and foremost and the ride feel is extremely important. Didn’t want to potentially sacrifice the supple Lexus-ness with wider tires. We’ll see how I feel in 15 months when it’s time to replace them. 😜
Not bad =/= good. Like you said, it's a luxury sports car. I think the criticisms are valid. The transmission is a let down. I still like my car, but Lexus absolutely could have done something to make the transmission better. It's not a good luxury transmission or sporty transmission relative to what else is out there.
Yeah, I think that's right. The biggest problem is that the exact same engine is available with the much better 10-speed in the LC500. I test drove both the IS500 and the LC500 back-to-back and the transmission in the LC is noticeably quicker and smoother in shifting, and the shifting logic seems better. But the overall driving experience is better in the IS; the LC is just so heavy and seems to be dialed-in for retired dentists, not really fun (of course, now my wife really wants to trade her 2022 LS500 for a new LC500 because she loves how it looks). I wonder if the 10-speed just wouldn't physically fit in the IS platform, or something like that. That's the only excuse that would be acceptable. I would pay an additional $5K if I could have gotten the 10-speed in the IS500. With that, it would be near-on to perfect. As it is, I really love it.
Yeah, I think that's right. The biggest problem is that the exact same engine is available with the much better 10-speed in the LC500. I test drove both the IS500 and the LC500 back-to-back and the transmission in the LC is noticeably quicker and smoother in shifting, and the shifting logic seems better. But the overall driving experience is better in the IS; the LC is just so heavy and seems to be dialed-in for retired dentists, not really fun (of course, now my wife really wants to trade her 2022 LS500 for a new LC500 because she loves how it looks). I wonder if the 10-speed just wouldn't physically fit in the IS platform, or something like that. That's the only excuse that would be acceptable. I would pay an additional $5K if I could have gotten the 10-speed in the IS500. With that, it would be near-on to perfect. As it is, I really love it.
IS and RC share a platform, while LS and LC share one. No shot they were going to do any work to make the 10 speed work when they can just drop in the 8 speed, unless you wanted to see a price point increase, which defeats the whole point of the 500 existing.
unless you wanted to see a price point increase, which defeats the whole point of the 500 existing.
The IS500 was always going to include a price point increase; if possible to include the 10-speed the additional price bump would have been worth it. The tranny is really the Achilles heel of this otherwise-great car.
The IS500 was always going to include a price point increase; if possible to include the 10-speed the additional price bump would have been worth it. The tranny is really the Achilles heel of this otherwise-great car.
The sleeper qualities of this car makes up for some of that, in which case I often exploit the attributes of this beauty and beast to their chagrin!
Maybe it's because I've driven the LC on track, but I have a lot of respect for that car's capabilities. It may be a little bit slower than our cars due to the weight, but it has killer brakes and, as mentioned, a great transmission.
So if I was to upgrade to the LC, I don't think the actual performance loss would be that upsetting. And if anything, the brakes would be an upgrade.
That is me. lol. Getting ready to go out for a lap.
Also, the LC is not as much of a sleeper, that's for sure. That could be for better or for worse. I kind of like that the IS 500 looks similar to other ISes at a glance. Arguably, it's always looked more aggressive than it might have needed to for its performance level - until the 500 came along lol.
The IS500 was always going to include a price point increase; if possible to include the 10-speed the additional price bump would have been worth it. The tranny is really the Achilles heel of this otherwise-great car.
I'm not talking the year over year bumps, I'm talking initial price point increase. No chance the car starts at $57k/$62k/$67k if they had to try and make the 10 speed work in the platform. I would bet the car would be less in demand at increased price points. I know I wouldn't have even considered it at a higher price point
I'm not talking the year over year bumps, I'm talking initial price point increase. No chance the car starts at $57k/$62k/$67k if they had to try and make the 10 speed work in the platform. I would bet the car would be less in demand at increased price points. I know I wouldn't have even considered it at a higher price point
Yeah, I know. That's why I said "price point increase" and then "additional price bump." I'm saying that the additional price increase solely due to including the 10-speed would be worth it, to me.
From what I understood the physical dimensions and the engineering involved would have been the issue. They were not going to spend too much on that on an end of life platform. It would have been nice to have but I'm ok with the 8 speed in this car. Part of me feels the 10 speed would have turned this car into an $85k GS F price point if they did it. $85k was too much for the GS F kind of like $100k is too much for an RC F Track Edition. It won't sell much at all.
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