"Car Care Nut" Reviews IS500
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I hope everyone is as satisfied as I am with their car choice. If it's performance you're after get an Audi RS3 or BMW M2. They're both around $65k brand new. Just know every car has their faults, some it's wieght, some styling/design, some it's materials used, some is reliability, ect.
Congrats on your purchase!
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FisforFucGM (07-23-23)
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What this car says to me is; Yes, my tech is a little old and outdated, my transmission shift logic isn't as good as performance cars, and all my performance numbers on paper don't look good when you compare me to others in my class. But I wasn't built for that. I was built to show you how well rounded I am. I am stylish, I have excellent build quality, I am extremely reliable, I will age well. While somethings are old, I promise they work and sound better than others like Bose or HK and my infotainment and dash cluster doesn't go blank and reboot every drive like FCA and GM products. I don't suffer from boost leaks or Coolant leaks from supercharger coolant circuits, I am simple and have more back-up safety systems than others, I hold my value, I am safe, I am extremely comfortable and quiet inside my cabin, I can be reserved and relaxed when you want and get you 29 mpg when cruising even though I'm a naturally aspirated V8 with only 8 speeds, I can also provide a smile and reward you if you roll into the throttle, I will not punish you and promise not to be a crowd surfer like others leaving cars and coffee, I promise you wont see my twin at every red light or simply in passing like other brands, you don't have to worry about trading me in before my warranty expires. Lastly, I'll get you some thumbs up and gain you good conversation from other enthusiasts.
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I respect that, but for me I still wouldn't base a decision on it. I have been in a few Porsche cars/suvs and never even put thought into the transmission. The Macan I was in rode so rough I couldn't get past that! Maybe it would be different for me when driving and living with it every day. Who knows. I do know that between the Toyota/GM vehicles I have owned the transmission didn't bother me much with any of them other than the low speed clunkiness, which I've gotten used to over time (C7 and IS). I think the only thing that would bother me long-term is a bad trans with serious problems, like stupidly rough shifting or something. Everything I've been in has been a 7-10 on a scale on 10 which is good for me.
The only major consideration I would make in regards to the transmission is automatic or manual. For example, if I ever feel frisky and buy a C6 it will be a manual or nothing 😁 And I probably wouldn't ever buy a manual daily driver because I don't always want to be engaged with the vehicle leaving for work at 6:45 am or coming home tired after a long day.
I'm not saying the ZF or DCT isn't better. I don't have the experience to make that decision. I just don't think they're worth all the hype. I wouldn't think higher of the IS if it had another transmission.
The only major consideration I would make in regards to the transmission is automatic or manual. For example, if I ever feel frisky and buy a C6 it will be a manual or nothing 😁 And I probably wouldn't ever buy a manual daily driver because I don't always want to be engaged with the vehicle leaving for work at 6:45 am or coming home tired after a long day.
I'm not saying the ZF or DCT isn't better. I don't have the experience to make that decision. I just don't think they're worth all the hype. I wouldn't think higher of the IS if it had another transmission.
And don't get me wrong - I wouldn't buy a car because it has a PDK. Porsches are so sought-after because they combine a lot of different aspects together really well. Build quality, reliability (for the most part...), a sense of engagement, driver feedback, comfort, and performance. They're a lot of things to a lot of people - people who can afford them, anyway. The Boxster and 911 I drove were awesomely fun, but they also felt like cars I could daily drive if I needed to. Not too harsh or crashy over bumps, but still agile and great-sounding. The Macan Turbo seemed like the perfect one-car solution - fast, comfy, and practical, though not as roomy as some larger SUVs but more usable than your average sedan. On top of that, it was fun to pitch into a corner and felt more special than something like an X3 M40i (which I've also driven). The PDK was just the icing on the cake for all three of those cars. You can get the Boxster and some versions of the 911 in a manual.
I think the IS 500 having this transmission is fine. This is supposed to be the send-off car for this platform, and I do like the snappy, aggressive shifts.
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Bechtold (07-23-23)
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I don't think anyone of us here that buy the IS500 base on the review from a YouTube guy. Opinion is like an ******* everyone got one. Previous owner of a 97 Supra TT and a M3, THE IS 500 is everything that I want, swear will never buy a Toyota car again because the new Supra really disappointed me until I sit on the IS 500. Took 2 minutes from the dealer to the red light down the street then turn around. The sale person keep asking me is there something wrong? My reply is I am taking it home today and the damn thing only have eight miles on it. Can't stop smiling on my way home.
#84
Fast forward to this spring... aaaaaaand I'm back in an IS. :-) I couldn't resist the 2UR.
#85
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Personally…when I want it (which is rare)…I love the Buick-like ride when selected. Lexus shouldn’t stray too far from its roots! 😎
Oh my God, I think this is one of the best purchase stories yet and I grabbed a plane the next day to get mine! #GoBag
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BrianDCIS (07-27-23)
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I don't think anyone of us here that buy the IS500 base on the review from a YouTube guy. Opinion is like an ******* everyone got one. Previous owner of a 97 Supra TT and a M3, THE IS 500 is everything that I want, swear will never buy a Toyota car again because the new Supra really disappointed me until I sit on the IS 500. Took 2 minutes from the dealer to the red light down the street then turn around. The sale person keep asking me is there something wrong? My reply is I am taking it home today and the damn thing only have eight miles on it. Can't stop smiling on my way home.
hilarious that it only took you a 2 minute test drive to know the IS500 was the real deal haha 😄
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DLPTony (07-28-23)
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I’m intrigued, what was it about the new Supra that missed the mark for you and had you so underwhelmed? And then to favour the IS500 so considerably over it? They are completely different car classes.
hilarious that it only took you a 2 minute test drive to know the IS500 was the real deal haha 😄
hilarious that it only took you a 2 minute test drive to know the IS500 was the real deal haha 😄
I don't need a car to be the fastest and most badass, I want one which I can enjoy and not to worry what's going to break after this repair. The IS 500 is very comfortable and I love the sound of the engine no plan to switch the exhaust, It is perfect for an old a ss like myself.
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If I want a BMW I will buy a BMW I found it is ridiculous Toyota can't develop the Supra all by themselves. Owning the Supra and a M3 at the same time really show the difference of gear box between the two car handling wise the M3 is on top but the gear box of the M3 really suck I hate the long travel clutch and the rubbery feel of the shifter. I am a old school guy like the interior of the IS500 most control using buttons and with a cd player, hate the mps format which compressed the audio so much the are no sound stage.
I don't need a car to be the fastest and most badass, I want one which I can enjoy and not to worry what's going to break after this repair. The IS 500 is very comfortable and I love the sound of the engine no plan to switch the exhaust, It is perfect for an old a ss like myself.
I don't need a car to be the fastest and most badass, I want one which I can enjoy and not to worry what's going to break after this repair. The IS 500 is very comfortable and I love the sound of the engine no plan to switch the exhaust, It is perfect for an old a ss like myself.
I kept my Supra for 2 years and I know it can't compare to a current M3, but it is a much better car than the Z4 that it shares components with....so, Toyota actually made the better BMW in that case.
I would love to see more manufacturer "mashups" in the future.
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04gita (07-31-23)
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BMW makes amazing vehicles. I've owned an 2004 M3 with a Dinan S2 package and Kinesis wheels, an 2005 X5 4.8is, and more recently a 2022 BMW M340i and a 2023 BMW X3 M40i. All have been excellent cars that were reliable, fun to drive, a joy to look back at, and the service from the dealerships was fantastic. I am OCD about my cars and how a dealerships service department presents itself (professionalism, courtesy, confidence) matters to me. It scares the hell outta me to own a car and it need service from a dealer that has slobs and meth monkeys for mechanics. That's why I am done with American cars, and it sucks because my 1 month old 2023 ZL1 I just traded in on my IS500 was a fantastic car to drive and look at. The dealership network and GM customer service was 3rd world. No one within 100 miles was confident nor clean enough to work on the LT4 engine. It was leaking coolant through the intercooler which shut down the pump on the intercooler circuit and that pulled timing and reduced throttle response. Car felt like a Scat Pack without the low end punch. Dealerships, even though it was clearly leaking from intercooler, didn't know what to do because it did not and will not produce a CEL.
Lexus is a great company that has a good reputation for reliability and great driving, looking, and luxurious vehicles. Their service departments keep their garages clean, and the mechs present themselves well and are knowledgeable (at least at the dealerships I've visited). I would not stray from purchasing a Porsche or BMW, and can't say anything negative about any experience. I would however tell people to stay away from KIA/Genesis (Hyundai) products, Chevy, Ford, and Dodge/FCA/Stellantis. Im on the fence Acura after my 22 TLX Type-S. I've owned flagship vehicles of each brand in recent years and have many factual based complaints on each, as well as positive things. Some positives outweighed negatives and visa versa, but all failed in dealership experience.
Lexus is a great company that has a good reputation for reliability and great driving, looking, and luxurious vehicles. Their service departments keep their garages clean, and the mechs present themselves well and are knowledgeable (at least at the dealerships I've visited). I would not stray from purchasing a Porsche or BMW, and can't say anything negative about any experience. I would however tell people to stay away from KIA/Genesis (Hyundai) products, Chevy, Ford, and Dodge/FCA/Stellantis. Im on the fence Acura after my 22 TLX Type-S. I've owned flagship vehicles of each brand in recent years and have many factual based complaints on each, as well as positive things. Some positives outweighed negatives and visa versa, but all failed in dealership experience.
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arentz07 (07-31-23)
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BMW makes amazing vehicles. I've owned an 2004 M3 with a Dinan S2 package and Kinesis wheels, an 2005 X5 4.8is, and more recently a 2022 BMW M340i and a 2023 BMW X3 M40i. All have been excellent cars that were reliable, fun to drive, a joy to look back at, and the service from the dealerships was fantastic. I am OCD about my cars and how a dealerships service department presents itself (professionalism, courtesy, confidence) matters to me. It scares the hell outta me to own a car and it need service from a dealer that has slobs and meth monkeys for mechanics. That's why I am done with American cars, and it sucks because my 1 month old 2023 ZL1 I just traded in on my IS500 was a fantastic car to drive and look at. The dealership network and GM customer service was 3rd world. No one within 100 miles was confident nor clean enough to work on the LT4 engine. It was leaking coolant through the intercooler which shut down the pump on the intercooler circuit and that pulled timing and reduced throttle response. Car felt like a Scat Pack without the low end punch. Dealerships, even though it was clearly leaking from intercooler, didn't know what to do because it did not and will not produce a CEL.
Lexus is a great company that has a good reputation for reliability and great driving, looking, and luxurious vehicles. Their service departments keep their garages clean, and the mechs present themselves well and are knowledgeable (at least at the dealerships I've visited). I would not stray from purchasing a Porsche or BMW, and can't say anything negative about any experience. I would however tell people to stay away from KIA/Genesis (Hyundai) products, Chevy, Ford, and Dodge/FCA/Stellantis. Im on the fence Acura after my 22 TLX Type-S. I've owned flagship vehicles of each brand in recent years and have many factual based complaints on each, as well as positive things. Some positives outweighed negatives and visa versa, but all failed in dealership experience.
Lexus is a great company that has a good reputation for reliability and great driving, looking, and luxurious vehicles. Their service departments keep their garages clean, and the mechs present themselves well and are knowledgeable (at least at the dealerships I've visited). I would not stray from purchasing a Porsche or BMW, and can't say anything negative about any experience. I would however tell people to stay away from KIA/Genesis (Hyundai) products, Chevy, Ford, and Dodge/FCA/Stellantis. Im on the fence Acura after my 22 TLX Type-S. I've owned flagship vehicles of each brand in recent years and have many factual based complaints on each, as well as positive things. Some positives outweighed negatives and visa versa, but all failed in dealership experience.
The dealership is supposed to have a specially trained technician for the Corvette and they're the only person that is allowed to work on them. I don't think they're allowed to sell/service the Corvette unless they have a trained tech. Any honest dealership will stick to this. My local GM dealer about a mile from my house does this and they always serviced my Corvette perfectly. No leaks, correct oil, filled right, driven right, seats covered, floor covered, never an issue. I would even take the service writer and mechanic gift cards at Christmas I liked them so much. The Camaro has the same drivetrain, but has no such technician to service the vehicle. I have always felt like the Camaro (ESPECIALLY the ZL1) should only be serviced by the Corvette tech. I guess it doesn't matter anymore with the Camaro ending, but it probably would have helped you want to keep the Camaro and them keep a customer.
On the flip side, the dealer I bought the C7 from was shady as f*** and treated my car like a rental. They're literally on dash car joy riding in my car doing almost double the posted speed limit. It all depends on how good the dealership is. I think the same goes with Lexus. I've had a Lexus dealership stain my white interior with grease while taking 7 hours for a simple oil change, then leave the locking lug nuts completely loose (endangering my life!). You want to talk about feeling like a "meth monkey" serviced your vehicle... As a whole, Lexus is better than GM in the service department, but there are still bad dealerships out there.
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