How often do you use your paddle shifters and how do you find them?
09-07-23, 05:31 PM
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How often do you use your paddle shifters and how do you find them?
Looking at moving into the IS500 after years of manual porsches and bmws
one of the big doubts for me is whether I can live with the 8 speed in the IS
as a manual lover, I know if I get the IS500 I will be using the paddles all the time
the paddles were very responsive on the LC I drove
for those coming from DCTs, how is 8 speed working for you? do you use the paddles? are they ok once the tranny warms up? (i noticed even in the LC when the tranny was cold there was a lag with the paddle shifters)
one of the big doubts for me is whether I can live with the 8 speed in the IS
as a manual lover, I know if I get the IS500 I will be using the paddles all the time
the paddles were very responsive on the LC I drove
for those coming from DCTs, how is 8 speed working for you? do you use the paddles? are they ok once the tranny warms up? (i noticed even in the LC when the tranny was cold there was a lag with the paddle shifters)
09-07-23, 08:08 PM
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I use the paddles every time I drive my IS. I must say that the ZF transmission in my 2022 M440i is definitely much muxh better.... especially with downshifts, but you'll get used to it and yes, it's much better after things warm up. The downshifts from 4-3-2 are a bit harsh when cold. Upshifts are always on point. I'm paired with a Pedal Commander now and I don't even think I could drive the car without it.
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09-07-23, 08:18 PM
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I use the paddles on almost every drive, particularly if I can find a good back road to play on. However, I would say they are only good in that type of environment. Unlike in the ZF 8-speed or Porsche PDK or similarly-good paddle-shift transmissions, I wouldn't normally use the paddles in traffic or any type of casual driving in this car. The car just acts like it doesn't like it. There's a delay, and downshifts are sluggish in normal driving. If you are having fun on a back road, however, revving the car out a bit, the paddles work great. Upshifts and downshifts are quick and crisp, with minimal delay. The rev-match on downshifts is amazing - it is night-and-day better than what you'd get on the IS 350's 8-speed when it comes to downshifts.
So, tl;dr: paddles are great in manual mode in spirited driving, not so much otherwise.
And you MUST select manual mode on the gear selector - using the paddles while in "D" means it's going to just limit your maximum gear, much like in other Toyota and Lexus products.
So, tl;dr: paddles are great in manual mode in spirited driving, not so much otherwise.
And you MUST select manual mode on the gear selector - using the paddles while in "D" means it's going to just limit your maximum gear, much like in other Toyota and Lexus products.
09-08-23, 02:42 AM
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I use the paddles on almost every drive, particularly if I can find a good back road to play on. However, I would say they are only good in that type of environment. Unlike in the ZF 8-speed or Porsche PDK or similarly-good paddle-shift transmissions, I wouldn't normally use the paddles in traffic or any type of casual driving in this car. The car just acts like it doesn't like it. There's a delay, and downshifts are sluggish in normal driving. If you are having fun on a back road, however, revving the car out a bit, the paddles work great. Upshifts and downshifts are quick and crisp, with minimal delay. The rev-match on downshifts is amazing - it is night-and-day better than what you'd get on the IS 350's 8-speed when it comes to downshifts.
So, tl;dr: paddles are great in manual mode in spirited driving, not so much otherwise.
And you MUST select manual mode on the gear selector - using the paddles while in "D" means it's going to just limit your maximum gear, much like in other Toyota and Lexus products.
So, tl;dr: paddles are great in manual mode in spirited driving, not so much otherwise.
And you MUST select manual mode on the gear selector - using the paddles while in "D" means it's going to just limit your maximum gear, much like in other Toyota and Lexus products.
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