This Blue is FIRE
01-31-24, 07:23 AM
#61
Trust me, part of the calculus was was Lexus/Toyota reliability. I’ve had a Toyota Solara and Tacoma before, and both were absolutely exceptional. But I couldn’t get out of my mind that the M440i GC I got has had zero issues since I got it. No faults, no odd glitches (strange software issues, but those can be solved with a restart), I haven’t even had to add oil to it, which is common with various BMW motors. The car has been virtually flawless, and I realized that getting rid of vehicle with ZERO issues was a risk. It was a dumb decision on my part.
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
Last edited by madpistol; 01-31-24 at 07:29 AM.
01-31-24, 10:59 AM
#62
drives cars
Trust me, part of the calculus was was Lexus/Toyota reliability. I’ve had a Toyota Solara and Tacoma before, and both were absolutely exceptional. But I couldn’t get out of my mind that the M440i GC I got has had zero issues since I got it. No faults, no odd glitches (strange software issues, but those can be solved with a restart), I haven’t even had to add oil to it, which is common with various BMW motors. The car has been virtually flawless, and I realized that getting rid of vehicle with ZERO issues was a risk. It was a dumb decision on my part.
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
01-31-24, 11:25 AM
#63
props to you going back to you’re m440i GC. I honestly couldn’t stand mine. At first it was fun, all the sounds it made. Then when it got down to it I honestly didn’t like it anymore. It was always a rough ride and not to mention all the tech issues I had with it. Personally I like the performance of my IS500. Never have a dull moment with it. It just feels faster to me. But hey to each their own. Surprised you didn’t get an M3 or M4 xdrive.
01-31-24, 11:39 AM
#64
Rookie
It was an emotional process. I had wanted a Lexus IS 500 for a longtime. I saw an opportunity, and took it. (Having a bad experience at the local BMW dealership was the catalyst) Dealership hit me about $5000 total, plus a bigger payment for my M440i GC (still cheaper than the IS 500 payment).
When it was all said and done, I just couldn’t justify keeping a car that was going to cost me more per month, got worse gas mileage, had a higher insurance premium, and yet I wasn’t completely in love with it. It’s a great car, but the current generation of BMWs are so good that it made the IS 500 feel like a step backwards. I wasn’t expecting that to happen, honestly.
When it was all said and done, I just couldn’t justify keeping a car that was going to cost me more per month, got worse gas mileage, had a higher insurance premium, and yet I wasn’t completely in love with it. It’s a great car, but the current generation of BMWs are so good that it made the IS 500 feel like a step backwards. I wasn’t expecting that to happen, honestly.
01-31-24, 11:56 AM
#65
Pole Position
01-31-24, 01:03 PM
#66
Trust me, part of the calculus was was Lexus/Toyota reliability. I’ve had a Toyota Solara and Tacoma before, and both were absolutely exceptional. But I couldn’t get out of my mind that the M440i GC I got has had zero issues since I got it. No faults, no odd glitches (strange software issues, but those can be solved with a restart), I haven’t even had to add oil to it, which is common with various BMW motors. The car has been virtually flawless, and I realized that getting rid of vehicle with ZERO issues was a risk. It was a dumb decision on my part.
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
The biggest thing I noticed almost immediately was the suspension. There was nothing wrong with it as it is very comfortable, but the dampening… it just didn’t measure up. Most of the time, it damped out bumps without issue, but every once in a while, I could feel a somewhat harsh vibration through the cabin over certain bumps. This is something that I never felt on my M440i GC. Every time I hit a bump in it, you feel the hit, and that’s it. No residual vibration through the cabin. It’s difficult to describe, but it makes the M440i GC at once both more sporty and more comfortable. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what I felt.
Had anyone else felt this before?
01-31-24, 05:53 PM
#67
Intermediate
Pro's and con's exist for different vehicles and its great as a consumer that we have so many options to chose from to select what we really value the most. I wish the IS500 had a stiffer suspension (even if it was just stiff as my 330, which pales compared to M-sport suspensions) ; I'd swap the transmissions between the 2 cars in a heartbeat. The 8 speed in the BMW is ultra smooth and rapid shifting. But there is not a single engine in the entire BMW lineup that I would take over the V8 in the IS500. As I've written a few times on this forum: 50 years from now little kids will be clicking on videos of the Lexus V8 to hear what an internal combustion engine sounded like back in the jurassic period. And styling, hands down in my humble opinion - the IS500 is the best looking, 4-door sports sedan currently on the market. BMW styling is good, but not spectacular, and seems to change so little from gen to gen. Again, subjective view. But both brand make top notch cars.
Last edited by TGPCanada; 01-31-24 at 05:57 PM.
01-31-24, 07:45 PM
#68
Pole Position
Okay then, let’s return to our regularly scheduled programming. Dude wasn’t happy, got it, next. 😎
01-31-24, 07:49 PM
#69
Yes, but my previous BMW (M340i) was in the shop 3 times for an issue with the 48V mild hybrid system and I had to top it up with oil a couple of times. My current M440i GC has the same powertrain, and I've had neither of those issues. Hopefully that will continue to hold true.
01-31-24, 07:53 PM
#70
Intermediate
01-31-24, 07:59 PM
#71
Anyway, after a couple of trips, BMW finally released a TSB on the fix, which basically meant replacing the pump, coolant assembly, belts, etc. Never had an issue again after that. Yay, technology!
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