The V8 is back: IS 500 F SPORT Performance
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Are any of you going to buy this new? If so are you not worried about the “usual” new car depreciation once you drive it off the lot? I would preferably wait for a lease returned IS 500 but that would be in 3 years! 😕 A lease returned Lexus IS 500 would definitely be about $15k+ cheaper give or take. Are any of you just going to wait it out? I’m tempted to just save money and buy it brand new since I know it’s:
1. A new screen that’s been pushed forward for easier access that is touchscreen and also has Apple Carplay/Android auto.
The RC F has Apple CarPlay (2018+) but what if you want more room/seats?
The GS F doesn’t have any Apple CarPlay and it’s on an old infotainment system anyways.
The IS 500 fills the gap for both of these.
2. For the people that didn’t want a car as big as the GS F but wanted more room than an RC F this fits the bill. So it’ll eat into both those sales for sure making this car more valuable.
3. There hasn’t been a reliable, luxury, and high power option in this segment (compact sedan) for a while so I think the demand will be high.
What are your thoughts?
1. A new screen that’s been pushed forward for easier access that is touchscreen and also has Apple Carplay/Android auto.
The RC F has Apple CarPlay (2018+) but what if you want more room/seats?
The GS F doesn’t have any Apple CarPlay and it’s on an old infotainment system anyways.
The IS 500 fills the gap for both of these.
2. For the people that didn’t want a car as big as the GS F but wanted more room than an RC F this fits the bill. So it’ll eat into both those sales for sure making this car more valuable.
3. There hasn’t been a reliable, luxury, and high power option in this segment (compact sedan) for a while so I think the demand will be high.
What are your thoughts?
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SickAF (03-22-21)
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But WHY has Lexus not come out with performance version of the NX/RX... I can't imagine that's not a huge market since EVERY other manufacture has a sport SUV. MB probably being the most with all their lineup of SUVS that you can get pretty much in AMG flavors. I would LOVE for my wife's NX to have more power. We love everything about it besides the lack of power. If there was an option to get an 8 cylinder in that thing we would trade instantly.
I like where Lexus is going but I feel like they are moving slowly compared to everyone else. But I guess the up side to that is most people that have a Lexus keep it and will enjoy it where as the German rivals tend to be "lease" vehicles then hope to god you don't have issues after a warranty is done.
-Nigel
I like where Lexus is going but I feel like they are moving slowly compared to everyone else. But I guess the up side to that is most people that have a Lexus keep it and will enjoy it where as the German rivals tend to be "lease" vehicles then hope to god you don't have issues after a warranty is done.
-Nigel
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Lagtime (03-22-21)
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natnut (03-23-21)
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Love that we'll have a chance at a V8 in sedan form.
Assuming it's the same motor in the LC500, and RCF, how will it sound?
Love the sound of the LC500. Hope the IS will sound similar.
The RCF (to me) is meh. Why such a big difference in the sound?
Also, do we happen to know at the moment if it will be port, direct, or combination (port and direct) injected?
Assuming it's the same motor in the LC500, and RCF, how will it sound?
Love the sound of the LC500. Hope the IS will sound similar.
The RCF (to me) is meh. Why such a big difference in the sound?
Also, do we happen to know at the moment if it will be port, direct, or combination (port and direct) injected?
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I've seen a ton of people trade in their compact performance sedan for a Model 3 Performance where I live. You get a pretty powerful car for $55k so I think its really taken a lot of share for the segment. I don't see many Lexus owners make the switch as they value reliability very highly so i think a lot of Lexus owners will upgrade to the IS500 but can't see many other brands switching to Lexus. I really hope the IS500 does very well so Lexus knows that there is a sizeable enthusiast population in Lexus that wants to see these high performance cars.
Also I when I said this I was talking about engine cars in the compact sedan segment, not electric.
—> There hasn’t been a reliable, luxury, and high power option in this segment (compact sedan) for a while so I think the demand will be high.
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To be honest... just from pushing the Model S P100D for a quick second... there’s no emotion there it’s just quick. Thing of a Mustang GT push but no exhaust sound or V8 engine sound. It’s really quiet. Yeah you go 0-60 in like 2 seconds but I guess it’s missing the main fun of an engine car, to me. To each their own though.
Also I when I said this I was talking about engine cars in the compact sedan segment, not electric.
—> There hasn’t been a reliable, luxury, and high power option in this segment (compact sedan) for a while so I think the demand will be high.
Also I when I said this I was talking about engine cars in the compact sedan segment, not electric.
—> There hasn’t been a reliable, luxury, and high power option in this segment (compact sedan) for a while so I think the demand will be high.
BTW, the last M3 has been fairly reliable by most counts so lets hope the new M3 will be just as reliable. The M340 is pretty high powered and just came out a year ago...i consider it the true IS500 competitor. I'm sure the Lexus will be more reliable though
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The last IS F has proven this and it’s part of the reason why so many are excited to see this back lol.
To each their own though. Some people keep their cars a long time, some don’t. Some people buy their cars, some people lease. 😁
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natnut (03-23-21)
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^^ I want to be able to order mine in white with a white interior and without the BBS wheels, and even the Enkei wheels aren't my thing. I would love to have the ability to have my IS500 wheels to be closer to those of the IS350, add the quad tip, the raised hood and that's it. Subtle design tweaks with a powerful engine.
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This is why people keep buying older Lexus’. The fact that they can keep going and going, even after driving them hard. This video just seals the deal that with just oil changes the engine doesn’t break. This IS F has 220,000+ miles. He tracks his IS F. He opens it and checks it out.
https://youtu.be/HT-DZ2ukqAs
https://youtu.be/HT-DZ2ukqAs
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totally agree is a horrible fad right now. 1st time I saw that before I saw anyone make it thst way from the factory was a custom wrap job on a 911 or GT3. I thought they ruined it. Then met a guy 2 weeks later with the SAME CAR (but different) in the same color. He proceeded to tell me how original it was.
Now I see something everyday in that color. It'll pass, like matte black. Used to see that everyday (which I actually like) but not anymore.
Now I see something everyday in that color. It'll pass, like matte black. Used to see that everyday (which I actually like) but not anymore.
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I really like the launch edition's interior. Besides loving the look of sued inserts as apposed to full leather, sued doesn't get too hot in the summer and it isn't ice cold in the winter. I had the sued/leather 2-tone interior in an old 2002 IS300 and absolutely loved it. Was looking at an '04 Sportcross at one point, but it had full leather and I wasn't too keen on that.
I really dislike Nardo Gray as custom paint or a wrap on random vehicles. It seems to have become everyone's lazy go-to color. I guess I'm just sick of seeing it... unless it's the original factory paint on an actual Audi RS7 or something like that. That being said, I'm not really bothered by Incognito gray because it's a factory color. But, if I could afford a new IS500 I'd want that sweet USB. It's always been one of my favorite F and F Sport colors.
I really dislike Nardo Gray as custom paint or a wrap on random vehicles. It seems to have become everyone's lazy go-to color. I guess I'm just sick of seeing it... unless it's the original factory paint on an actual Audi RS7 or something like that. That being said, I'm not really bothered by Incognito gray because it's a factory color. But, if I could afford a new IS500 I'd want that sweet USB. It's always been one of my favorite F and F Sport colors.
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