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Old 12-09-21, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sw2oboi
All dealers are marking up their cars, just make an offer.

By the way I see so many FE coming to the market right now compared to the reg model. so no one should be paying a higher mark up on the FE compared to the regular model.
You also want to look for a dealer with more then 1 FE in stock. If they only have one, that dealer may not be so flexible on their price.
I could sell my 2021 IS 350 F-Sport and actually make about $10k. Crazy times.
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Old 12-10-21, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by KishMish
I know the launch edition is limited but I wasn't sure about the regular is500 being a limited run as well.
I want to make sure you didn't misunderstand what I stated, sometime I am not always good at explaining because English is my 2nd language. The Launch Edition is limited production of 500 units and that will be it, after they are gone, no more will be available and 450 are headed to the States while 50 are coming to Canada. About the non-LE, in theory, that car is not a limited production, however, because of the chip shortage, it is indirectly affecting the ability to output a large number of these cars at the moment. So far, from what we have seen, no one has been able to have a custom order accepted, and all those getting their non-LE (myself included) are vehicles that were produced by Lexus and shipped across North America to various dealers with various combo and limited numbers. For example, dealer X could be allocated one with a white exterior and black interior while dealer Y gets a white with red interior (etc) so they are just parachuted across the country in very limited number. Then customers in those dealers MAY get lucky and get their hands on one. We are all expecting the production of the non-LE to pick up in 2022 so people should be able to get what they want, but it may take a little while longer before you get exactly what you want as far combinations are concerned, so I wanted to make sure you had a realistic expectation.

In my case, I was told I could order a white on white back in September because I was the first on the list, then my order was rejected. Eventually, after a lot of effort from my dealer, they were able to get a white exterior with red interior allocated to them so right now, that car is tagged as mine until it arrives and can see the color combo in person. It is a crazy time out there and it appears the LE are more easily found but the non-LE are very rare at this point in time...Regardless of what you get, most consumers in the US will be paying some market adjustments with some dealers really exaggerating what these cars are worth - The 500 is a great bar but not 30k above MSRP!
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Old 12-10-21, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iceache925
I could sell my 2021 IS 350 F-Sport and actually make about $10k. Crazy times.
Not with that color you won't - LMAO!!! Couldn't resist - Seriously, I am started to get the crazy idea to put a 4 Sale sign on my 2021 and just go on the road trip and see how far I get before someone buys it. By the way things are going, I'll be lucky if I make it to the border I won't even make it out of town if people think the 4 Sale sign is for me (lol)

EDIT - Truth be told, I actually like the GW despite all my joking around. I find the press car with the lighter color Enkei wheels provide a good contrast and I actually like it

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Old 12-10-21, 04:48 AM
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For those of us who have ships at sea and are too cheap to pay for the overpriced satellite tracking, this website gives you its satellite position for free

https://shipfix.com/ship/andromeda-leader_IMO-9273909
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Old 12-10-21, 04:51 AM
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^^ People can't afford to pay the satellite tracking because they are paying 20k market adjustments (lol)
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Originally Posted by wthrman2
Not with that color you won't - LMAO!!! Couldn't resist - Seriously, I am started to get the crazy idea to put a 4 Sale sign on my 2021 and just go on the road trip and see how far I get before someone buys it. By the way things are going, I'll be lucky if I make it to the border I won't even make it out of town if people think the 4 Sale sign is for me (lol)

EDIT - Truth be told, I actually like the GW despite all my joking around. I find the press car with the lighter color Enkei wheels provide a good contrast and I actually like it
I’ll keep my GW over boring white, boring black, boring silver…. Yawn fest of basic colors over and over. My 500 will definitely be Red or UBM 2.0… can’t decide.
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Old 12-10-21, 06:01 AM
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^^ LMAO - I hear ya! I agree that GW does look good and actually allows the body lines to show quite nicely! The other blue that I am not sure why people dislike so much is the lighter blue on the Cadillac CT-5 V BlackWing - not sure what it's called but I find that color stunning

Edit - I looked and it's called Electric Blue
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Old 12-10-21, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wthrman2
^^ LMAO - I hear ya! I agree that GW does look good and actually allows the body lines to show quite nicely! The other blue that I am not sure why people dislike so much is the lighter blue on the Cadillac CT-5 V BlackWing - not sure what it's called but I find that color stunning

Edit - I looked and it's called Electric Blue
I like the Electric Blue as well. Reminds me of Carolina Blue!
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Hi everyone. New here and new to the Lexus brand. I’m #1 at the only Lexus dealer in my area for an LE with a deposit down on it since August. There was no talk of price until it was allocated. I got hit with a. $10,000 mark up. Initially, I had a sour taste in my mouth as I’ve NEVER paid over window sticker out the door on any of my cars I’ve ever owned. The reality is I sold my ‘16 Accord Touring back to the dealer in September for double KBB and that was taking a bit of a hit. That dealer used to have 40-60 Accords on the lot at any given time. Now they have three, two of which are dealer trades. Everything incoming is already sold. Anything on the lot has $3,995 markup. A Type R Civic has $10k. The other Honda dealer in my area has $5,000 mark up and they force you to buy everything in finance. My takeaway was people are paying $3,000-$5,000+ for run of the mill cars. An extra $5k for a premium limited run car wasn’t too bad. I’d prefer it wasn’t there but do I want the car. I sat down to do paperwork on mine last Friday and got an update on my car. My dealer has 7 IS350s sitting with my car at port. They’re all sold.
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Old 12-10-21, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yaroze86
Added to the list.

Just found maybe our #1 or 500!!! JTHUP1D26N5001001
JTHUP1D28N5000500 and JTHUP1D25N5000499 and JTHUP1D21N5000001 appear to be a valid VIN...... At this point who knows....

Current known LE's (43)
JTHUP1D24N5001143 N5001177 N5001191 N5001202 N5001203 N5001204 JTHUP1D29N5001218 JTHUP1D27N5001220 JTHUP1D2XN5001244 N5001248 JTHUP1D24N5001255 N5001261 JTHUP1D25N5001264 N5001285 N5001288 N5001290 N5001295 N5001319 JTHUP1D20N5001320 N5001321 N5001346 N5001348 N5001351 N5001367 N5001369 N5001376 N5001377 N5001379 N5001380 JTHUP1D22N5001383 N5001387 N5001391 N5001425 JTHUP1D20N5001477 JTHUP1D24N5001482 JTHUP1D23N5001487 N5001596 JTHUP1D23N5001599 JTHUP1D25N5001605 N5001620 JTHUP1D2XN5001678 JTHUP1D2XN5001681 N5001684 N5001690
I’m 1378 California.
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^^ Congrats and welcome to the forum!! I agree that no one wants (and should) pay a market adjustment - If I was living in an area where such market adjustments exist, I would just keep what I have and walk but that is just me. That being said, we all have different situations and realities and I am not here to pass judgement. In the end, we all have different realities so we have to make choices based on our paradigm. That being said, enjoy your LE and make sure to post pics when you get it
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Old 12-10-21, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by wthrman2
^^ Congrats and welcome to the forum!! I agree that no one wants (and should) pay a market adjustment - If I was living in an area where such market adjustments exist, I would just keep what I have and walk but that is just me. That being said, we all have different situations and realities and I am not here to pass judgement. In the end, we all have different realities so we have to make choices based on our paradigm. That being said, enjoy your LE and make sure to post pics when you get it
Vacationing in south Florida for the winter and was checking on IS 350’s and IS500’s. Only one IS500 in the entire state and it’s in Naples. Sticker is 68,750$. Incognito with black interior. Not sure if the dealer will ask for more. Only 6 IS350’s in the state. Just food for thought
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My understanding is that the front rotors on the IS500 are 0.8 of an inch bigger than those on the IS350. Is that right?

If that's true, the IS350 can run 17s for winter wheels. I know the calipers are bigger on the IS500 as well, but it seems like the IS500 could run 18s.
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Originally Posted by AmbyBomb
My understanding is that the front rotors on the IS500 are 0.8 of an inch bigger than those on the IS350. Is that right?

If that's true, the IS350 can run 17s for winter wheels. I know the calipers are bigger on the IS500 as well, but it seems like the IS500 could run 18s.
Yes, the IS 350 can run 17s. A friend does that for his winter set - in fact, I think they are OE IS 250 wheels from the 2IS.

I would say it's probably possible to put 18s on the 500 - not sure about 17s.
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I can't see 17s fitting but being able to run 18s would be nice.
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