The V8 is back: IS 500 F SPORT Performance
01-05-22, 05:50 AM
#5042
Not always. You might eek out a little bit more value by waiting for the late model years but there's always an opportunity cost no matter which way you go. By waiting, the trade-offs might be (1) you won't get to enjoy the car during its debut year(s) when it turns the most heads including your own and (2) if you're financing, you won't pay the car off sooner in your lifetime. Consider a scenario where the sooner the car is paid off, the sooner someone can use their $ for something else, like a larger house that they couldn't afford now due to income restraint or likewise couldn't afford a large house payment + IS500 payment in 3 years.
I understand in the year 2030 and beyond that a 2025 IS500 will be worth more than a 2022 model, but if you can afford this car in the first place that is a marginal amount (maybe $8,000 max all else being equal) of your total net worth. Maybe you get a better suspension or maybe you get a HUD, maybe both. But is that really worth waiting 3 years of your youth?
Now if the 2022 model year turns out to be a dud, like it burns oil, then yes, you saved yourself a world of headache by waiting. Let's hope that's not the case.
I understand in the year 2030 and beyond that a 2025 IS500 will be worth more than a 2022 model, but if you can afford this car in the first place that is a marginal amount (maybe $8,000 max all else being equal) of your total net worth. Maybe you get a better suspension or maybe you get a HUD, maybe both. But is that really worth waiting 3 years of your youth?
Now if the 2022 model year turns out to be a dud, like it burns oil, then yes, you saved yourself a world of headache by waiting. Let's hope that's not the case.
V.
01-05-22, 05:57 AM
#5043
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^^ I hear what you are saying but correct me if I am wrong, but the IS F in 2008 was a brand new model unlike the IS 500 which is basically starting from the 2021 IS 350 F Sport DHP and adding the yamaha dampers in the rear, adding a well established engine and transmission with Enkei wheels, a slight revised hood and quad tips. What do you feel would be seriously problematic with this car? To me, this should be a somewhat safe model to jump in....I mean even the new LC has some growing pain but again, that was a brand new model
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01-05-22, 05:58 AM
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01-05-22, 07:01 AM
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The '12 to '14 ISF was miles better than the '08 to '10. Super long list of updates, upgrades, etc, both inside and out, and performance wise (even though the HP and motor remained the same). I'm glad I held out for the '12....as bad as I wanted an 08 when it came out. 08, unfortunately, but understandably, was by far the worse year ISF, and naturally, is the one with the least value/less desired. The only was this doesn't happen with the IS500 is if there's only one model year (like the LFA).
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V.
Many people didn’t realize all the continuous improvements didn’t equate to more sales..
It was also a very though economic time period compared to today.. #dayjob
Here’s the sales run for USA only, in its 7 selling years. For my Canada friends, they had 566 total for the same years.
USA __#__ Units Sold - Lexus IS F
2008 _____ 2,733
2009 _____ 436
2010 _____ 502
2011 _____ 654
2012 _____ 568
2013 _____ 139
2014 _____ 86
Total = 5,118
Global figures are slightly over 10k units.
Let’s hope the IS 500 can do better this time around, with its “first naturally aspirated V8”
Joe Z
01-05-22, 08:06 AM
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When they initially tried to sell this car, they kept calling it caviar with Ash
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01-05-22, 08:13 AM
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The '12 to '14 ISF was miles better than the '08 to '10. Super long list of updates, upgrades, etc, both inside and out, and performance wise (even though the HP and motor remained the same). I'm glad I held out for the '12....as bad as I wanted an 08 when it came out. 08, unfortunately, but understandably, was by far the worse year ISF, and naturally, is the one with the least value/less desired. The only was this doesn't happen with the IS500 is if there's only one model year (like the LFA).
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https://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is-f/2...7/?radius=6000
https://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is-f/2...4/?radius=6000
01-05-22, 08:17 AM
#5048
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These guys want 10k over plus 2.2k in Port installed accessories and are rather rude about it - "we can and we will sell this car"... then they have all sorts of misinformation in the video 🙄
When they initially tried to sell this car, they kept calling it caviar with Ash
When they initially tried to sell this car, they kept calling it caviar with Ash
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01-05-22, 08:28 AM
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These guys want 10k over plus 2.2k in Port installed accessories and are rather rude about it - "we can and we will sell this car"... then they have all sorts of misinformation in the video 🙄
When they initially tried to sell this car, they kept calling it caviar with Ash
When they initially tried to sell this car, they kept calling it caviar with Ash
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01-05-22, 08:40 AM
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^^ Jokes on the sucker who paid 10K over MSRP to be honest....Imagine, you can have 2 people with their 500 talking in the parking lot. How much did you pay for your identical IS 500 LE? I paid 75K (example), oh, that is weird, I paid 85K. Makes me think of that hotel Trivago commercial where one guys paid 135$ for the same room as the guy who paid 99$
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01-05-22, 08:54 AM
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^^ Jokes on the sucker who paid 10K over MSRP to be honest....Imagine, you can have 2 people with their 500 talking in the parking lot. How much did you pay for your identical IS 500 LE? I paid 75K (example), oh, that is weird, I paid 85K. Makes me think of that hotel Trivago commercial where one guys paid 135$ for the same room as the guy who paid 99$
Oh right you're Canadian.
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01-05-22, 09:00 AM
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^^ LMAO - Yeah, not that it is sunshine and lollipops up here however, it is nice that at least on the car front, there are some consumer protection for not being taken to the cleaners. Just don't hate because I am beautiful 
01-05-22, 09:46 AM
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Just to be clear guys the $2,200 in Port Installed options does not ALL goto the dealerships..
If it’s part of the MSRP they just get the incremental %, like the car itself.
Just wondering did anyone see or grab the MSRP..?? I’m curious as to how many PIO items were added..
Joe Z
If it’s part of the MSRP they just get the incremental %, like the car itself.
Just wondering did anyone see or grab the MSRP..?? I’m curious as to how many PIO items were added..
Joe Z
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