The V8 is back: IS 500 F SPORT Performance
#526
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Yes those two points are true. But the cars will be under warranty for the near future. And the other parts - luxury, practicality - the IS kind of falls short on in comparison to the other cars I'm looking at which are wagons and have more modern interiors.
Like I said, my list is weird
Like I said, my list is weird
Depreciation
Maintenance
Repairs
Total 5-Year Cost to Own
Also you're comparing a midsize wagon to a compact performance sedan. There's no logic to that. Sounds like for your needs, you need a crossover or a minivan.
#527
Nooo don't say the M-word!
EDIT: @flipside909 if you do look at the list I posted above originally when @Compromise started asking what people were cross-shopping with, there were mostly crossovers and wagons on that list for me. The IS500 was one that I managed to argue with the wife onto the list based on those things that you listed - reliability, depreciation, maintenance, TCO. For me, it was the chance to own a N/A V8 in a RWD platform, an archetype quickly disappearing. And she has a soft spot for Toyota/Lexus products as well since her family grew up only having those, haha. Since I do 95% of the driving, she is OK with the IS500. I hope that I can make it work as a family car!
EDIT: @flipside909 if you do look at the list I posted above originally when @Compromise started asking what people were cross-shopping with, there were mostly crossovers and wagons on that list for me. The IS500 was one that I managed to argue with the wife onto the list based on those things that you listed - reliability, depreciation, maintenance, TCO. For me, it was the chance to own a N/A V8 in a RWD platform, an archetype quickly disappearing. And she has a soft spot for Toyota/Lexus products as well since her family grew up only having those, haha. Since I do 95% of the driving, she is OK with the IS500. I hope that I can make it work as a family car!
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I'm wondering if the exhaust layout will be the same or similar to the GSF. is the GSF and RCF exhaust set up the same? I'm already thinking exhausts for this car. probably go custom SS midpipe and TI rear, unless Meisterschaft comes out w/ a TI option soon after the car is released.
#530
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It will be a true dual design, should take after the IS 350's exhaust routing.
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I'm wondering if the exhaust layout will be the same or similar to the GSF. is the GSF and RCF exhaust set up the same? I'm already thinking exhausts for this car. probably go custom SS midpipe and TI rear, unless Meisterschaft comes out w/ a TI option soon after the car is released.
For example an IS F exhaust is not applicable (not even close) to an IS 350 of the same chassis..
Same concept will apply to the IS 500
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The GS F & RC F exhausts are indeed similar for the V8 / 2UR-GSE application.. But not the same as, length on mid pipe changes and section of axle back changes due to the 2 door vs 4 door. NONE of which are similar to a V6 IS 350 in sizing or fitment.
For example an IS F exhaust is not applicable (not even close) to an IS 350 of the same chassis..
Same concept will apply to the IS 500
Joe Z
For example an IS F exhaust is not applicable (not even close) to an IS 350 of the same chassis..
Same concept will apply to the IS 500
Joe Z
also, from your experience and in your opinion, is there a difference in tone and or volume when comparing a SS vs. TI system for these cars?
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as a former ISF owner, I'm curious to know if the the current 2UR engine produces the same or similar exhaust tone as the ISF. do you think the ISF exhaust note compared to the current RFC exhaust note is the same or different? (from what I can recall w/ my previous straight pipe system, the current RCF w/ straight pipes, on youtube vids, sounds different than my previous car. the RCF sounds a lot dirtier/cacophonous/raspier than my previous car.
also, from your experience and in your opinion, is there a difference in tone and or volume when comparing a SS vs. TI system for these cars?
also, from your experience and in your opinion, is there a difference in tone and or volume when comparing a SS vs. TI system for these cars?
Yes of course a Full Ti system will produce a different acoustic sound when compared to a SS system.. Again assuming the same muffler or midpipe design was used..
Even down to the amount of packing and wool material used inside the mufflers / resonators..!!
All plays a role in sound produced.
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#534
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Something worth mentioning, the RC F and the IS 350 F SPORT have identical overall lengths 185.4" I've seen the IS 500 next to the IS 350 side by side and they look indistinguishable. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance will be a tad longer in length due to the bumpers. The IS 500 does sound a little throatier than my RC F. I'll have to take video of it when I get a chance.
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The RC F Track Edition/Fuji Speedway Edition, despite having a Titanium Muffler setup, doesn't not sound that much louder than my stock RC F exhaust. It has a little more pronounced tone, but a little disappointing considering it's a titanium exhaust and the extra cost you pay for the exclusivity. It should have had an active exhaust valve like the LC 500 to make a huge impact. The IS F didn't have a true dual exhaust as is based on the 2nd Gen IS chassis as we all discovered overtime. 3rd Gen IS exhaust routing has a true dual layout and is the same for the IS 500. Piping diameter and etc are obviously different for the application, that's pretty much common sense.
Something worth mentioning, the RC F and the IS 350 F SPORT have identical overall lengths 185.4" I've seen the IS 500 next to the IS 350 side by side and they look indistinguishable. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance will be a tad longer in length due to the bumpers. The IS 500 does sound a little throatier than my RC F. I'll have to take video of it when I get a chance.
Something worth mentioning, the RC F and the IS 350 F SPORT have identical overall lengths 185.4" I've seen the IS 500 next to the IS 350 side by side and they look indistinguishable. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance will be a tad longer in length due to the bumpers. The IS 500 does sound a little throatier than my RC F. I'll have to take video of it when I get a chance.
please post a vid whenever you get a chance that compares the IS500 vs. your RCF!
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Maybe DUMB STUPID Question
https://www.lexus.com/IS500/ Discuss. Jeff
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#538
There are no dumb questions. Only dumb people. I kid! I kid! From what I've read, it will be using the same V8 engine that that RC F uses with some tuning differences.
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#539
I like that it will be a tested and tried engine rather than a new one with no longevity tests. Lexus needs to announce the price already!
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Same...I haven't been on in quite a few years myself. I was reminded of the page via the IS Freaks FB group, popped over, and saw this glorious thread! It's nice to see so many folks, other than me, jazzed for the 500. I just hope I can get it spec'ed to my specifications, not interested in being the first to own if I'm not completely happy with it.
My personal preference for the 500 is the USB w/red interior (keeping with what I have), ML, and a mid-60s price tag. The NAV is not desired, but if I can get my color choice, I'll gladly eat the additional cost of the NAV. You said take it easy for the next few months and I'm listening, but dealership shenanigans give me heartburn. :-D
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