The V8 is back: IS 500 F SPORT Performance
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No, this is in downtown Toronto. Being sitting in the showroom for a month. Selling at MSRP ($72,900). This kind of car is a tough sell in Canada , and we're in the heart of the winter. Someone will snap this up soon (maybe it will be me. LOL).
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Thanks everyone for your concern. I was so excited to share my success story and photos with you guys but this puts a serious wrinkle in all my plans and my trust in the Lexus brand.
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
#5809
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I may have missed it but I assume it's a black interior?
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Thanks everyone for your concern. I was so excited to share my success story and photos with you guys but this puts a serious wrinkle in all my plans and my trust in the Lexus brand.
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
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Yeah, it's a bit of a tough one right now. Yesterday, I went to see an Infrared one. It arrived sometime in December, which means it was being manufactured during the heart of the chip shortage. Having said all this , this is Toyota/Lexus, a world reputable automotive supplier that has developed standardized, regimented quality programs in manufacturing. (this is not Tesla . LOL - sorry Tesla owners). I expect whatever issues to be minor, and more of an irritating nuisance. We all know the mechanical components are solid - engine, transmission are old, tried, and reliability and built in Japan. You always hear of these complaints/ headaches BMW owners have with the electric gremlin problems in their cars. Definately we don't want Lexus products falling into a similar conversation.
Anyways, we are all speculating and over extrapolating based on a couple of incidents that happened yesterday. Most on this forum have had their IS500 for several weeks now without incident.
Let's get the diagnosis and go from there.
BTW - for anyone who's on the fence about a particular colour my advice: You MUST, MUST go see the colour in person, even if it's on a different Lexus car. All these Youtube videos/pictures,etc. while very helpful, just are no substitute for seeing the colour in person. I was of course on the fence with Infrared (looks a tad orange when I look at even my own pictures I took yesterday). But in person, there is no hint. It has a deep, beautiful, rich red which even my wife was pleasantly surprised by (she thinks I'm stupid to buy red). Must, must go see the colour in person.
Anyways, we are all speculating and over extrapolating based on a couple of incidents that happened yesterday. Most on this forum have had their IS500 for several weeks now without incident.
Let's get the diagnosis and go from there.
BTW - for anyone who's on the fence about a particular colour my advice: You MUST, MUST go see the colour in person, even if it's on a different Lexus car. All these Youtube videos/pictures,etc. while very helpful, just are no substitute for seeing the colour in person. I was of course on the fence with Infrared (looks a tad orange when I look at even my own pictures I took yesterday). But in person, there is no hint. It has a deep, beautiful, rich red which even my wife was pleasantly surprised by (she thinks I'm stupid to buy red). Must, must go see the colour in person.
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I would be quite bummed out and nervous after this .
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I HAVE THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. Picked it up today. After driving just TWO miles at the start of an 800 mile journey home with just 20 miles on the odometer, the CEL went on with the exact same warning about the parking brake malfunction. Turned around and went back to the dealer. The Master Tech won’t be here until Monday morning and so now I’m stranded out of state and need to be back at work by Tuesday.
The dealership agreed to put us up for the weekend until Monday morning when they look at it. If it’s indeed a software issue, do you think it’s safe to drive 800 miles home and get it fixed at my local dealer? I’ve never been so stressed and disappointed in my life. This trip had turned into a nightmare.
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The dealership agreed to put us up for the weekend until Monday morning when they look at it. If it’s indeed a software issue, do you think it’s safe to drive 800 miles home and get it fixed at my local dealer? I’ve never been so stressed and disappointed in my life. This trip had turned into a nightmare.
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Some others have non-LE cars running fine. Seems like more than a coincidence if two LE's have the same problem. Like a bad run of O2 sensors on the first few cars.
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Thanks everyone for your concern. I was so excited to share my success story and photos with you guys but this puts a serious wrinkle in all my plans and my trust in the Lexus brand.
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
If the issue persists you can Lemon Law it and, depending on your state, get your full purchase price back. In CA if they can't repair a vehicle after 3 attempts you get refunded the value of the car from the date of the first attempt of the problem, which was immediately for you.
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His is not a LE, the 2 issues have been with the non LE...jororo and macmaster are not LE owners
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Thanks everyone for your concern. I was so excited to share my success story and photos with you guys but this puts a serious wrinkle in all my plans and my trust in the Lexus brand.
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
here’s the million dollar question. Would you guys either:
(A) return the car as the dealer allows me. Get a refund on the down payment and cancel the loan contract (I pray that’s not complicated). Chalk it up as a learning experience.
OR
(B) keep the car and let them repair it. Fly home and get it shipped to me (it would be nice if they helped pay for that)
If it’s the latter, I’m worried that the issue or more could persist when I’m home and then I have a problematic car forever. I could sell it after 4 years when the powertrain warranty expires, which is the same length of time I financed, but that’s really not how I imagined having this car. (BTW - Do cars depreciate more if they’ve been in the shop more?) Or it could be a great car that never has problems again. I really don’t know where to go from here....
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Oh damn. Dr. Vin has entered the chat. But in all honestly, that’s actually a smart move. Even better would be checking the build date of the vehicles. If you go to the vehicle history in the infotainment, assuming your dealer didn’t clear, there should be about 4 issues that populated on the day the car was built, plus or minus a day or two accounting for the time difference. My car was built in the 18th of November and I have 4 error codes registered in tue infotainment for the 17th of November. It was obvious that it was more than likely that they started the car without it being fully assembled or whatnot. But that’s a good way of getting the build date without contacting a regional rep
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I couldn't imagine ditching such a great car from a bad first experience. I would get it repaired. Is there any possibility you can take Tuesday off work, get it repaired, and drive back Tuesday?
If the issue persists you can Lemon Law it and, depending on your state, get your full purchase price back. In CA if they can't repair a vehicle after 3 attempts you get refunded the value of the car from the date of the first attempt of the problem, which was immediately for you.
If the issue persists you can Lemon Law it and, depending on your state, get your full purchase price back. In CA if they can't repair a vehicle after 3 attempts you get refunded the value of the car from the date of the first attempt of the problem, which was immediately for you.
For those who say to let them repair it, should they pay for shipping it to me? I’ll already be spending a lot more on this trip than I planned, but I’m partly ok with that if they do the right thing to meet me halfway somewhere. It seems really unfair that 100% of the burden should fall on me. This is Lexus! Supposed to be a luxury experience
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