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Old 07-12-21, 09:46 AM
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True true, I have a feeling I am going to end up with a moonroof anyway. This is nothing like Infiniti quality it blows that out of the water by lightyears
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Old 07-12-21, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Anybody know if other F models use 2 piece rotors? I Just noticed it says 2 piece front and rear rotors. Those are always more expensive to replace when the time comes That's one of the things that steer me away from higher end cars, I don't want to pay $1500 for a front brake job.
IS/RC 350 F SPORT Front Brake Pads: 04465-24050 $140.92 MSRP
GS 350 F SPORT Front Brake Pads: 04465-30510 $77.57 MSRP

All the F models use the Toyota/Brembo brake pad setup. These are more expensive than the Toyota/Advics setup. Performance car, performance brakes, you gotta pay to play.

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it was said earlier in the thread the 2 piece rotors are those from the gs350 f sport, not the GS-F/RC-F rotors
The brake setup for the F SPORT is Toyota/Advics.





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Old 07-12-21, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
IS/RC 350 F SPORT Front Brake Pads: 04465-24050 $140.92 MSRP
GS 350 F SPORT Front Brake Pads: 04465-30510 $77.57 MSRP

All the F models use the Toyota/Brembo brake pad setup. These are more expensive than the Toyota/Advics setup. Performance car, performance brakes, you gotta pay to play.



The brake setup for the F SPORT is Toyota/Advics.
Pads plus rotors, the rotors were the biggest expense.

I understand needing better brakes for a faster car, but come on... the brakes on my '13 GS F Sport were more expensive than on my C7. Hell, the OEM rotors on our RX 350 were more expensive than OEM rotors on my C7! That just doesn't add up.
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Old 07-12-21, 12:58 PM
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0-60 in 4.5 seconds....just as fast as the 2008 IS-F.
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Old 07-12-21, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Pads plus rotors, the rotors were the biggest expense.

I understand needing better brakes for a faster car, but come on... the brakes on my '13 GS F Sport were more expensive than on my C7. Hell, the OEM rotors on our RX 350 were more expensive than OEM rotors on my C7! That just doesn't add up.
You can go with aftermarket pads which are a fraction of the price. OEM Corvette brake pads and rotors are pretty expensive.

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Old 07-12-21, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
You can go with aftermarket pads which are a fraction of the price. OEM Corvette brake pads and rotors are pretty expensive.
Negative, the rotors aren't that much. I just looked them up and they're $99.40 each for non-Z51 cars. The Z51 rotors are actually better and cheaper at $97.85. If $100 OEM rotors can stop a faster Corvette and handle track duty they should be able to stop an IS 500.

Currently the front rotors for my RX 350 are $90 each. RX 350 rotors shouldn't be $10 less than Corvette rotors lol something is wrong here.
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Negative, the rotors aren't that much. I just looked them up and they're $99.40 each for non-Z51 cars. The Z51 rotors are actually better and cheaper at $97.85. If $100 OEM rotors can stop a faster Corvette and handle track duty they should be able to stop an IS 500.

Currently the front rotors for my RX 350 are $90 each. RX 350 rotors shouldn't be $10 less than Corvette rotors lol something is wrong here.
It'll be interesting to see the price difference between Lexus-branded and OEM rotors. Normally it's a pretty substantial delta.
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Old 07-13-21, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Negative, the rotors aren't that much. I just looked them up and they're $99.40 each for non-Z51 cars. The Z51 rotors are actually better and cheaper at $97.85. If $100 OEM rotors can stop a faster Corvette and handle track duty they should be able to stop an IS 500.

Currently the front rotors for my RX 350 are $90 each. RX 350 rotors shouldn't be $10 less than Corvette rotors lol something is wrong here.
Toyota sources through high quality suppliers for their brakes. I can attest to this since I never had to change the front pads or rotors on my 2015 GS 350 F SPORT when I leased it for 3 years. They still had 4/10 at 38k before I turned it in. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance brakes should be just fine.

Lexus/Toyota oem brakes last a long time (dependent on your driving style). You're comparing parts of a Chevrolet to a Lexus...a light sports car to a heavier luxury sports sedan.

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Old 07-13-21, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoeboy4
I want a slick top, the extra headroom and not having to worry about the seals as the car ages is a massive plus to me
Just my two cents, I never had any issues with my 2016 IS's sunroof, and I find the IS has a lot of headroom in the front even with a sunroof. Even my wife's BMW seems to have less. I don't know what's up with the measurements Lexus publishes, but it definitely feels like I have more headroom in the car. Maybe that's down to the seating position. I guess it could be an issue if you are very tall.

In my IS 500 I would definitely not hesitate to have a sunroof. Any other way for me to hear the V-8 is welcome.
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Old 07-13-21, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by arentz07
It'll be interesting to see the price difference between Lexus-branded and OEM rotors. Normally it's a pretty substantial delta.
That price was from a Toyota dealership for what it's worth.
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Toyota sources through high quality suppliers for their brakes. I can attest to this since I never had to change the front pads or rotors on my 2015 GS 350 F SPORT when I leased it for 3 years. They still had 4/10 at 38k before I turned it in. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance brakes should be just fine.

Lexus/Toyota oem brakes last a long time (dependent on your driving style). You're comparing parts of a Chevrolet to a Lexus...a light sports car to a heavier luxury sports sedan.
It was the opposite for me. My '13 GS F Sport needed front brakes very early (around 20k miles) and I am not hard on the brakes. I drive like 4 miles to work every day at no more than 40 mph, it's easy driving. The brakes on my Vette actually lasted longer than the '13 GS F Sport and the Corvette did see some speed lol. The RX and ES have done a lot better with brakes. I replaced the RX rotors thanks to a warp, not from wear. That was fun coming home after a service visit and finding lug nuts loose on the SUV

I know they're in different categories, but my point in the previous post was that if a high performance, track ready sports car can stop as good as it does with $100 rotors then Lexus should be able to do the same. With the IS 500 having 2 piece rotors I'd expect the replacement cost to go up a couple hundred dollars per rotor. 2 piece rotors on the GS F Sport are $280 each.
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Old 07-13-21, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 95bat

I know they're in different categories, but my point in the previous post was that if a high performance, track ready sports car can stop as good as it does with $100 rotors then Lexus should be able to do the same. With the IS 500 having 2 piece rotors I'd expect the replacement cost to go up a couple hundred dollars per rotor. 2 piece rotors on the GS F Sport are $280 each.
There's something seriously wrong if you're having to replace rotors at the same frequency as brake pads. There's no reason to replace rotors that early unless you ride your brakes all day.

The IS 500 F SPORT Performance brakes will do just fine. The pads and the rotors are a fraction of a cost of the F Brembo setup.
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Old 07-13-21, 01:26 PM
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So Awesome on the brochure! I'm researching cost and options to powder coat or cerakote those enkei wheels now. If the BBS aren't a selectable option.
Answering my own question here on what's involved to paint the Enkei set. A local shop specializing in wheel repair and powder coating charges $160/wheel using Prismatic powder (same company that produces cerakote). The price includes dismounting, full wheel prep, coating and baking, remounting and balancing. Not a bad deal IMO.

Now the tough part, selecting just the right shade and sheen of the color I like... I ordered swatches to help.
Have fun and good luck ya'll!
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Old 07-13-21, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nvicta
Answering my own question here on what's involved to paint the Enkei set. A local shop specializing in wheel repair and powder coating charges $160/wheel using Prismatic powder (same company that produces cerakote). The price includes dismounting, full wheel prep, coating and baking, remounting and balancing. Not a bad deal IMO.

Now the tough part, selecting just the right shade and sheen of the color I like... I ordered swatches to help.
Have fun and good luck ya'll!
what part of California are you and this shop located at? care to share the name of the place? I really want the black forged BBS's but in the event that option is not available, I may go the powder coat route with the Enkei's as well. thanks!
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Originally Posted by flipside909
There's something seriously wrong if you're having to replace rotors at the same frequency as brake pads. There's no reason to replace rotors that early unless you ride your brakes all day.

The IS 500 F SPORT Performance brakes will do just fine. The pads and the rotors are a fraction of a cost of the F Brembo setup.
I agree, just going by what I was told... I still remember they told me it was normal for the vehicle and the pads were very soft. Either way, I still don't think the IS 500 needs 3x more expensive 2 piece rotors.
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Originally Posted by cremaster
what part of California are you and this shop located at? care to share the name of the place? I really want the black forged BBS's but in the event that option is not available, I may go the powder coat route with the Enkei's as well. thanks!
For sure!

westcoastwr.com

I'm in the NorCal Bay Area which looks to be a hot spot for powder coating options. This guy was very thorough in detail and I could tell customer service is one of his priorities. He also has plenty of nice reviews from customers all around the bay.

The Enkei seem a little "busy" to me and are my second choice, but who knows? I they're darker and subtle, they may just take on a whole new character. Probably an easy sell on the second hand market too

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