cremaster

iTrader: (1)

I'm saying it, 4 to 4.2 second sprint.

stlgrym3

iTrader: (4)

hope msrp comes under $60k. This will be the last ICE car i'll buy, buy it and keeping it forever, pass along to my children, yes it's that special.

LH1

Agreed, this is going to be a special car. There will never be another V8 in a mid size sedan again. This is it.

Cloudburst Grey with the white Nuluxe for me. I'm done with black interiors. I've had them forever.

macmaster

Maybe by a Japanese company.

roastpuff

Not by a German company, and not by an American company either. So who's left then?

LH1

Dodge is the only one left who could possibly put a V8 in a mid size sedan. Is anyone on CL aware of a D segment platform that they're planning on putting a V8 in?

The Germans are done. South Korean auto makers? Nope. Other Japanese options? Nope.

roastpuff

Dodge/Chrysler don't even make mid-size sedans any more, the Charger/300C are full-size. And I don't think the Alfa Giulia platform would fit a V8, though I'd love to see a Hellcat V8 in there!

EZZ

I thought Dodge was going full EV on their performance lineup. I think this is it for the V8 in the sedan category. I wouldn't worry too much about the speed as its more of a visceral feeling car. Speed doesn't really matter anymore...that grocery getting SUV thats a full EV will smoke almost any ICE to 60 anyway. This will be way better than an M340 if they keep the price anywhere near mid $60k.

flipside909

For you guys in Southern California, I just posted an opportunity for you to see the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance Launch Edition in-person at the Lexus IS Pop Up Experience starting August 18:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-...l#post11109025

SilverBull

I got excited when I saw this car first announce but now I am not sure. I own an RC350 and wish it was an RC-F but the interior will be mostly the same as the standard models. That extra hp and torque should do better than the stats show. I am really close to picking up a 21 supra in the next few weeks and the performance on that car is night and day different than the lexus variants that are out. I have owned 7-8 Lexus cars and Still have my old 08' RX350 but when it comes to excitement I feel like Lexus is a step behind BMW and Audi. Lexus cars run forever, hold their value and pretty nice overall. However, the biggest drawback to me is they lack a soul or some excitement to get you out of the house in most cases. I like the RC-F, GS-F and IS-F but each one had some glaring issues such as weight, transmission with no DCT or manual, and most of all they don't perform stat wise like their competition. I love the cars for long term ownership but I really wish they could get on board and reach for the stars more like the LFA did. The Supra is basically a BMW but it still says Toyota on it. The strange part to me is they made the Supra with a B58 engine and did the RC/IS-F cars with the V8 engine. both have pros and cons but That supra engine can get up and haul *** with min mods. The other part is the ZF Transmission is pretty nice even thought it could be improved it shifts pretty fast. I hope the IS500 comes closer to the feel of that car acceleration wise as it certainly has a lot of hp on paper. Time will tell but I hope it works out better.

flipside909

The whole drivetrain (Engine, Trans, Diff) is from the 2020+ RC F.

Shoeboy4

@flipside909 Does the 500 even have the oil and trans cooler from the RC F? I remember there was speculation it possibly does not back a couple of months ago, its great if it does!

Compromise

Where's the NorCal show-case?

Shoeboy4

I would be there in a heartbeat if it was anywhere near the bay area or Sacramento!

DLPTony

If you feel this way, then I’d respectfully argue the Lexus Ethos has been lost on you. Lexus was never in the horsepower game, hence the LFA was not the fastest kid on the block. The ethos is about the entire experience where drivability, speed, value, longevity, and cachet work in concert to create a moment every time you are behind the wheel. Lexus makes quick cars, but not fast ones, and I think the entire experience (I’ve owned 4) is quite Soul Rich! 😎