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Old 09-03-21, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by macmaster
$58k fully loaded does kind of seem too good to be true lol. If so, why would anyone buy a IS350 with DHP for $55k??? I cannot wait though.
You're going to hate it - a Canadian version IS350 DHP (F Sport 3 in Canadian package, and it has memory seats ) stickers for just under 47K USD. Missing the ML Audio and 360 camera but has most of the other stuff.

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Old 09-03-21, 05:31 PM
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There’s a $10000 difference between Canada and US?? Unbelievable. That would put the fully loaded 500 at $68000 USD. That’s too much.
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Old 09-03-21, 05:36 PM
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Hi!, When I spoke to Lexus this morning about the IS500 pricing they also told me that the 2022 IS350 F Sport in Canada will now have the ML audio and 360 camera as part of the top package but didn't know if the black window trim would be on the F Sport.
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Old 09-03-21, 06:11 PM
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Maybe I should buy from Canada...
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Old 09-03-21, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lbv
Hi!, When I spoke to Lexus this morning about the IS500 pricing they also told me that the 2022 IS350 F Sport in Canada will now have the ML audio and 360 camera as part of the top package but didn't know if the black window trim would be on the F Sport.
it should be according to the order guide for Canadian IS500s I posted earlier in this thread.
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Old 09-03-21, 06:44 PM
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To be real and honest...it's really missing some key features that should not only be on the IS350 but for sure should be on this more expensive IS500 model.
  • Power Folding Outside Mirrors
  • Memory Seats (I had this on my 2007 IS350)
  • Power Rear Trunk Close Button
  • Power Kick to Open Trunk
  • Lumbar button for passenger seat
  • Rear Power Connections for Phone/iPad Connections (at the very least USB)
  • Electric Tilt Telescoping Steering Wheel. (I had this on my 2007 IS350 Luxury)

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Old 09-03-21, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
  • Memory Seats (I had this on my 2007 IS350)
  • Electric Tilt Telescoping Steering Wheel. (I had this on my 2007 IS350 Luxury)
these should be on the IS500 in both the USA and Canada version. In Canada these are standard in IS300 AWD and up already.
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Old 09-04-21, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
To be real and honest...it's really missing some key features that should not only be on the IS350 but for sure should be on this more expensive IS500 model.
  • Power Folding Outside Mirrors
  • Memory Seats (I had this on my 2007 IS350)
  • Power Rear Trunk Close Button
  • Power Kick to Open Trunk
  • Lumbar button for passenger seat
  • Rear Power Connections for Phone/iPad Connections (at the very least USB)
  • Electric Tilt Telescoping Steering Wheel. (I had this on my 2007 IS350 Luxury)
I thought it had folding mirrors, memory seats, and electric tilt/tele steering wheel?
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Old 09-04-21, 09:43 AM
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The first minute of the vid is about the NX and it being searchable in their inventory finder now at around 1 min he says the IS500 is searchable now too and has 3 types to search for, one is the Launch Edition, then just IS500, and finally IS500 premium, he said some could start showing up soon and has no idea what the differences are if the premium is different than the IS500 or if it is a broader search that just includes LE and Premium

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Old 09-04-21, 11:48 AM
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Good info. I'd really like to get a non-LE in say October as opposed to sometime early next year.

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Old 09-04-21, 12:17 PM
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Do we (consumers) have access to a regional inventory search web page or will we have to search each dealer web site individually?
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Old 09-04-21, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kandyman1
Do we (consumers) have access to a regional inventory search web page or will we have to search each dealer web site individually?
No, that stuff he showed us on that video is internal. Just fyi, the IS line is one of those models affected by the 40% reduction. Dealerships wont be receiving any more IS's for a month or two. So first IS500's may not arrive until December.
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Old 09-04-21, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kandyman1
Do we (consumers) have access to a regional inventory search web page or will we have to search each dealer web site individually?
The dealers here in Southern California seem to have a hard time keeping the 350's in stock. And I doubt the dealers will even get very many 500's. And with that being said, no matter what the MSRP may be, you can probably expect a large dealer mark up. Possibly $10,000 more.

The dealer where I got mine in January usually only have 2 IS 350s at any given time.. the same car I negotiated down to $39,xxx is now $46,xxx PLUS an additional $3,000 adjusted market value added. If people actually pay that, I don't know. But if they do they'll be so upside down in a couple of years...

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Old 09-04-21, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sw2oboi
No, that stuff he showed us on that video is internal. Just fyi, the IS line is one of those models affected by the 40% reduction. Dealerships wont be receiving any more IS's for a month or two. So first IS500's may not arrive until December.
It's much higher, I believe they are reducing US market from 140k to 60kish. Could go even lower. These are desperate times. Germans will be even more affected.
-China controls Flow of rare earth minerals, Taiwan is the greatest producer of chips in the world by far. Dwarfing everyone else.
-China wants to take Taiwan, even by invasion.
-Market is now choked in Asia East.
-Covid ruined global shipping times
-Human labor at all time low globally due to Covid19 and other factors.
-Will take Samsung investing billions of dollars 10 years to get to current level of production TSMC is at.
-USA has no path to ramp up this level of production.
-Taliban now controls 3 trillion dollars worth of lithium and rare earth minerals.
-America holds sanctions against Taliban
-China is aiding Taliban, soon China controls 99% of market. They currently hold at least 80% of Rare earth
-America confused and still bickering while The west coast burns, east coast sinks and the economy plummets.
-Germany not even making V8s due to parts shortage, how do you think their chip sourcing and logistics go? Very bad

So many think it will be fixed by January but they are dead wrong. The car market is F'd up for awhile. So cool cars are going to be hard to come by these days. prices just got worse for everything.

Unfortunately potato chips are about the only chips that the US is still manufacturing. Outsourcing everything was a great idea wasn't it?

Auto Manufacturers have realized that by keeping supply very low they don't need rebates and incentives. If you look at their profits over the last year, profit is up even though they are selling fewer cars. They are also able to raise prices and push people into more expensive vehicles due to demand and by not having excess stock of lower cost vehicles that have little to no profit (and might even be a loss for them if they have to push big incentives to sell them).


Expect more car manufacturers to follow. Makes sense. Keep demand up by low supply and make more money.

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Old 09-04-21, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryJG
These are desperate times. Germans will be even more affected.
This is the least interested I've ever been in the Germans. The Cayman GT4 is the only German car I would buy.

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USA has no path to ramp up this level of production.
Isn't there a plant being built in Arizona to alleviate the chip shortage? I know this will take years though.

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many think it will be fixed by January but they are dead wrong. The car market is F'd up for awhile. So cool cars are going to be hard to come by these days. prices just got worse for everything.
Sucks for us IS 500 buyers. I should have bought an IS F in 2011.


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potato chips are about the only chips that the US is still manufacturing. Outsourcing everything was a great idea wasn't it?
No it wasn't. I don't want to go off on this. DaveGS4 or bitkahuna would close the thread.
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