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^^ Because it has a longer wheel base? Because the new IS has been developed on the new track and you would think they would have fine tuned the handling and should be pretty good....
I'm going to disagree and venture to guess that the IS still doesn't feel as good as the GS F for 2 reasons. (1) No torque vectoring differential. (2) The history of the IS500 is that it was a last minute decision pitched by Lexus North America and approved by Mr. Sato after the new 2021 IS platform was already designed for the 300/350. That means they didn't have time to make significant improvements to the IS500 suspension over the IS350, and I can tell you that the 2021 IS350 does not handle quite the same as a late model GS F.
I'm basing all this just on video reviews and my own impressions having tested the GS F and 2021 IS350.
I will say the F cars have a nice suspension setup. Even in the RC F I drove, which was a 2016 MY car, it felt incredibly comfortable while being super-flat in corners. Those dampers are no joke.
However, I will say the 2021 IS 350 I'm currently driving is even more comfortable than my old 2016, and perhaps rides just a hair softer than an RC F would. Which makes sense... But also, the IS does in fact grip the road really nicely in spite of the soft suspension. I went on a mountain run with mine and felt really confident in the car. There was body roll, sure, but the car always felt vey planted. If that's how the 500 feels I'll be just fine with that.
Forgive the stupid question, but if I wanted to get an IS500 base with no options, would I go into a Lexus dealer and ask for one to be built? I know you can do that with a Corvette and you used to be able to watch it get built. Or do I just have to hope for one to show up? maybe telling local dealers that if one comes in I would buy it (probably not going to happen and they would mark it up)
^^ No stupid questions - the concensus here is that o dealers will order a base IS500 for their inventory and with allocations being so limited, I would think all cars will be special order, at least for a while. If you want me, get your bottom at the dealer and try ad tag one for you - don't snooze or you will lose
(1) No torque vectoring differential. (2) The history of the IS500 is that it was a last minute decision pitched by Lexus North America and approved by Mr. Sato after the new 2021 IS platform was already designed for the 300/350. That means they didn't have time to make significant improvements to the IS500 suspension over the IS350, and I can tell you that the 2021 IS350 does not handle quite the same as a late model GS F.
Having driven Acuras with the SH-AWD, I hear you there on torque vectoring differential and such. You also raised a good point that the car was never developed for the IS500 as that is an NA market pitch - HOWEVER, there are people speculating that a true F is in the wings and the 500 is an intermediate step so its possible the changes to the chassis and such can bring some improvement. I am not discrediting your claim that the GF S will handle better than the 500, in theory, it makes sense but I guess time will tell. For me, its a moot point because I won;t track mine nor am I an aggressive driver, I just want one because of what it represents - my middle finger to those wanting to shove electric cars down my throat
Having driven Acuras with the SH-AWD, I hear you there on torque vectoring differential and such. You also raised a good point that the car was never developed for the IS500 as that is an NA market pitch - HOWEVER, there are people speculating that a true F is in the wings and the 500 is an intermediate step so its possible the changes to the chassis and such can bring some improvement. I am not discrediting your claim that the GF S will handle better than the 500, in theory, it makes sense but I guess time will tell. For me, its a moot point because I won;t track mine nor am I an aggressive driver, I just want one because of what it represents - my middle finger to those wanting to shove electric cars down my throat
Heck ya! I am with you 100% on the electric car thing. I'm also anti-SUV so it's also my middle finger to all the speed-demon crossover moms out there. I'm actually looking forward to driving this car really really slowly just to p*** people off.
Some more clarity and Official Specs on pricing and what's included..
Will work on options and accessories little later.
2022 Lexus IS 500 F SPORT
For those passionate customers who want to push the envelope on driving performance and exhilaration, Lexus is proud to offer the all-new IS 500 F SPORT Performance. As the halo model in the IS family, the IS 500 is the debut model of the F SPORT Performance brand. Under the unique raised hood lies a naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V8 generating 472 hp and 395-lbs torque. An eight-speed Sport Direct Shift automatic transmission channels that power to the rear wheels of this performance sedan and a throaty quad exhaust system with dual stacked tail pipes amplify the sound of this high-output engine.
The IS 500 F SPORT will launch with a three-grade strategy - IS 500, IS 500 Premium, and IS 500 Launch Edition. These grades are designed to generate maximum launch excitement while offering bundled features that are competitively priced in the marketplace.
All-New 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance
Model Price
IS 500 F SPORT $56,500
IS 500 F SPORT Premium $61,000
IS 500 F SPORT Launch Edition $67,400
The IS 500 F SPORT model will include the following standard equipment: Power Moonroof, Intuitive ParkingAssist with auto-braking and Memory Package which includes a power tilt-and-telescopic steering column plusLexus Memory System for driver’s seat, outside mirrors and steering column
The IS 500 F SPORT Premium model adds the following additional standard equipment: Navigation system with 10.3-inch touchscreen and 17-speaker Mark Levinson Premium Sound Audio System, Panoramic View Monitor, Triple Beam LED Headlamps and Power Rear Sunshade.
The IS 500 F SPORT builds upon the improvements made to the 2021 IS with a focus on delivering confidence and a linear connection between driver and vehicle. The IS 500 comes standard with 19-inch Enkei alloy wheels, Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) and a Torsen ® limited slip differential that improves handling and traction. Moreover, the IS chassis is improved with the addition of Yamaha ® rear performance dampers which increase comfort at low speeds, and additional stability and agility at high speeds. Brake cooling enhancements have also been made with additional cooling and larger 14.0-inch two-piece aluminum front rotors and 12.7-inch rear rotors.
Inside, the IS 500 comes standard with heated & ventilated front F SPORT seats as well as black F SPORT Performance badging on the heated leather-wrapped steering wheel and door sill scuff plates. Furthermore, an exclusive IS 500 animation in the multi-information display (MID) greets each driver at startup.
On the safety front every IS 500 comes standard with Lexus Safety System+ 2.5 which includes Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection, All-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Lane Tracing Assist, Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist, Road Sign Assist and Intelligent High Beams. Blind Spot Monitor with Rear Cross-Traffic another standard safety feature on the IS 500.
The exterior and interior color palette found on the IS 350 F SPORT will be available for the IS 500 including the popular exterior colors such as Infrared, Grecian Water and Cloudburst Gray. Interior NuLuxe choices include White, Black and Circuit Red.
IS 500 F SPORT Performance Launch Edition
For those buyers that desire additional distinction Lexus is proud to offer the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT
Performance Launch Edition. Powered by the same naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V8 and based off the IS 500 Premium model, this Launch Edition will offer numerous interior and exterior enhancements and only 500 serialized vehicles will be produced for North America.
The interior is elevated with an exclusive two-tone Black & Gray Ultrasuede ® trimmed front and rear seats, door accents and center console. Additionally, the heated leather-wrapped steering wheel receives unique silver ash wood treatment and each vehicle will come with a serialized Launch Edition badge to further highlight the vehicle’s exclusivity.
For the exterior, the Launch Edition will be turning heads with its exclusive Incognito exterior, an all-new color for the Lexus line-up. Furthermore, the vehicle comes standard with 19-inch seven-spoke Matte Black BBS ® forged alloy wheels.
The Launch Edition will be arriving in dealerships later this Fall alongside the IS 500 F SPORT Performance models.
2022 IS Production was tentative to start September 6th, 2021
Here is my follow up on the Accessory Options / PIO - Port Installed Options.
If you special order, some of these can be added (maybe) but I can see most IS 500 will have the Z1 or Z2 Accesory pkgs built into the Window stickers.. They will vary per 4 USA area regions.. North, South, East, West
Things that caught my attention are the CF mirror covers and CF Wing.. I do believe the CF wing is the same exact one found on the IS 350 F SPORT w/ DHP package..
Too bad they didn't make these CF bits standard on the IS 500.
So once again keep in mind these codes are for the entire 2022 IS Line up.. (not IS 500 specific only)
I put this together on an excel file for all to know the codes
Thank you for clarifying it is greatly appreciated. Interesting the premium doesn’t come with memory pack only the launch edition, or possibly I am blind and reading it on a phone and I missed it! …… yeah I missed it lmao once again thank you
Thank you for clarifying it is greatly appreciated. Interesting the premium doesn’t come with memory pack only the launch edition, or possibly I am blind and reading it on a phone and I missed it! …… yeah I missed it lmao once again thank you
Personally to me it sounds like the memory package comes standard with the base model.
Honestly I'd be good with the base model...the only thing I really want is the Sunroof...and viola, it's in the base package.
If it has Android Auto...bonus!
The only thing that peaked my interest from the Premium package is the headlights.
I may have missed this but are we expecting more than 1 model year run for this? This is the last thing I need to buy right now, but hard to not trade in the GX now....
09-13-21, 10:46 AM
Pricing & Packaging confirmed.
