How soon do you think we will know if an ISF or ES F will come out? I read rumors of both a TT V6 and TT V8 and am curious before making a decision when the IS500 F Sport Perf becomes available.

 

Impossible to know. I don't think even somebody like flipside909 or Carmaker1 would have info on that.

Get the IS 500. An IS F may happen in the future but that could be a couple years. I don't think an ES F would ever happen.

 

Your right, if it did I could just trade up.

 

Exactly, I doubt a V8 turbo will ever be made - I am not ruling out an IS F but with a twin turbo V6 - I want a naturally aspirated V8 and not risking missing this opportunity

 

Most probably, 2024 model year onwards (so expect to see new gen concept F compact sedan or coupe in early 2023 at the NAIAS or late 2022) as the TT V6 (?) will be replacement for the 2UR engine and 2UR will be discontinued in 2023 when it is no longer needed for homologation requirements for Lexus racing (RCF GT3) as the RCF GT3 is set to be retired by 2023 and will be replaced by the new platform/engine.

 

ES F?
Good lord….
Well, I sure hope they make NX F and RX F as well…

 

^^ and an UX F

 

ES F lol, as funny as the trd camry and nismo maxima

High performance suv seems to be a thing now. I laughed at the Jeep srt 10 years ago but bmws/Benz got the line up of amg/m suvs

 

I'd drive an ES F with AWD and the TTV6

I love my ES. Perfect size, comfortable, all the features I want (just need pano view cameras), its just too slow lol. I dont think I will come back to a FWD car for a long time.

 

reliability is synonymous with quality and durability. If that’s not important buy yourself a used C 63 with an extended warranty and plan on trading before that warranty is up