Benibiker1558

Probably because the only reason you normally rotate tires is because the front ones get worn out more just due to turning so you get the rears up front to equalize the wear amongst the full set of four tires. In our case the rear tires don't get worn out excessively just driving straight since they don't turn so no point in rotating them. This makes you ask why even swap the fronts if both tires are being worn out the same just by turning... unless you tend to turn more in one direction .

Bechtold

In a FWD car I would go through tires quicker in the front if it wasn't for the fact it was a square setup so I could rotate. Every RWD car I have had is staggered otherwise the same would be true but for the rear tires. My Supra could easily go through two pairs of tires for every front if all I did was just floor it and let the torque eat up the tires. Track days or spirited "Canyon runs" though help to wear down the fronts in this case through not quite as quickly as the rears. It is often close enough for me to say replace all four, especially if I am looking at a different tire altogether. I imagine the traction control though does help to reign in the rear tire wear a bit on the Lexus. I turn off the traction control on the Supra because it is a 90's paranoid system, sensing danger when none exists which is quite annoying and unexpected. With it off the rear tires on the Supra are free to wear as quickly as intended.

arentz07

You'd be rotating the fronts side to side, no? We have a staggered fitment. You can't rotate the rear tires to the front.

Benibiker1558

Yeah when I say normally I mean cars with same size tires front and rear.

Benibiker1558

Yup, flooring it, canyon runs, drifting, racing will eat up your rears. Someone that just drives normally most of the time wouldn't have that kind of wear on the rear tires.

snowyblue

i am looking at the michelin pilot alpin PA4s for winter in oem spec. not may options out there

AmbyBomb

There are lots of options if you go to 18s.

Phresh2010

iTrader: (3)

What do you guys think of running 265/40/19 in the rear for snow tires? I am no tire expert but would a slightly bigger side wall throw off the rolling diameter much?

AmbyBomb

I think it'll fit, but I have no idea why you would go wider than stock for winter tires. I went narrower for a reason.

arentz07

Stock rears are 265. It's not wider, just taller.

AmbyBomb

My mistake, I thought stock was 255 for some reason. I still think it'll fit, but I'm confused by the decision to get relatively wide winter tires.

arentz07

I think narrower is usually better for winter, especially for snow driving. Maybe a 255/40R19? That would probably work. It would be 2.7% taller, but if being slightly taller is the goal, it would be a little smaller than 265/40R19. I would personally do that instead of going 265.

Phresh2010

iTrader: (3)

Thanks for all the input. I was planning to just use my stock wheels for the winter and since stock size winter tires are impossible to find I am exploring other options. I just don't want my rolling diameter to be off by too much but perhaps a square setup of 245/40 would be okay? Again not a tire expert

arentz07

Well you'd be stretching the rear tires a bit to fit the wider rear wheels. 255 is not that much of a stretch. Conversely, the tires would be pretty chunky on the front compared to stock.

Moonman89

For those of you that haven't swapped to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (Summer) tires here is a short clip of my car. The traction control is off & it was around 60 degrees clear night. The car loves to hook!