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Old 09-22-23 | 07:40 PM
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Infrared would look good with steelies. No bad choices here!
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Old 09-24-23 | 12:43 PM
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Old 09-24-23 | 01:09 PM
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Yeah, that Mustang did great considering it was on worse tires and nearly 10 years old. However, I do feel the exhaust gave it a small advantage compared to if it was stock.
Old 09-24-23 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 604GSE21
That kid is such a goober.
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Old 09-25-23 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by arentz07
Yeah, that Mustang did great considering it was on worse tires and nearly 10 years old. However, I do feel the exhaust gave it a small advantage compared to if it was stock.
I will always argue Manual, Sport S+, and a set of Michelins are required to maximize our cars in any type of race. However…you have to give it up to the Mustang!

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That kid is such a goober.
::heehee:: The both of them, which I think is cool because they aren’t taking themselves that seriously. 😜
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Old 09-25-23 | 01:21 PM
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Ughh they kept talking about peak TORQUE at 7000 rpm. Umm, that's hp not torque. More touchpad griping when a touchscreen is available.
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Old 09-25-23 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bechtold
Ughh they kept talking about peak TORQUE at 7000 rpm. Umm, that's hp not torque. More touchpad griping when a touchscreen is available.
Let's cut them some slack - it's almost 90% of the peak. LOL. Torque @ 7100 rpm: 472 hp x 5252 / 7100 rpm = 349 ft-lbs.
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Old 09-25-23 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bechtold
More touchpad griping when a touchscreen is available.
LOL! Right! At this juncture, the touchpad is a trigger for reviewers. Now matter how much it’s improved or other options are provided (a touchscreen), the complaints will continue. I just ignore it.
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Funny story, went for a small road trip last weekend. Kids in the back, wife in the passenger seat. I see her trying to fool with the touchpad to activate carplay. I just let her keep screwing with it and after some time I laughed and was like “you can just touch the screen…”

My eyes were on the road but I felt her stare.
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Old 09-26-23 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicRob99
Funny story, went for a small road trip last weekend. Kids in the back, wife in the passenger seat. I see her trying to fool with the touchpad to activate carplay. I just let her keep screwing with it and after some time I laughed and was like “you can just touch the screen…”

My eyes were on the road but I felt her stare.
Is it bad that I laugh when I get the stare? I'm getting divorced one day huh lol
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Old 09-26-23 | 01:14 PM
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I'm kind of past giving these youtubers slack. A tiny bit of google/research and you can get your facts right.

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Old 09-26-23 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TGPCanada
Let's cut them some slack - it's almost 90% of the peak. LOL. Torque @ 7100 rpm: 472 hp x 5252 / 7100 rpm = 349 ft-lbs.
Yep! Torque is king. If the IS 500 had more torque, obviously this would not even be a fight. Torque is your hole shot off the line and each shift. Of course you need HP. They work hand in hand and need each other. The camaro, mustang, charger and challenger are very balanced with torque and hp. I am sure this may be true with other brands as well, just do not follow their output numbers.

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Old 09-27-23 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MYIS500
Yep! Torque is king. If the IS 500 had more torque, obviously this would not even be a fight. Torque is your whole shot off the line and each shift. Of course you need HP. They work hand in hand and need each other. The camaro, mustang, charger and challenger are very balanced with torque and hp. I am sure this may be true with other brands as well, just do not follow their output numbers.
I think the IS 500 is actually somewhat underrated when it comes to torque. Both the RC F and IS 500 have dyno results above their claimed numbers.

DSport Mag got 350 ft-lbs at 5,000 RPM at the wheels. I'd imagine this to be 400-410 ft-lbs at the crank.

https://dsportmag.com/the-cars/first...-lexus-is-500/

This slightly-healthier RC F got over 410 WHP and 377 ft-lbs of wheel torque!

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...line-dyno.html


I know dynos are different, but still, I think we can conclude it's making AT LEAST the stock torque number. I mean, this engine makes 85% of its peak torque down at 3,000 RPM. It's not like it doesn't have torque - but it also noticeably "takes off" once you hit about 5,000 RPM.

An anecdote, my friend who drove it said it had "torque for days" at low RPM. He owns an F30 335i and an E46 M3, so those are what he is used to. The 335i has some torque, too...

What is likely hampering the IS 500 is the gearing - 2nd and third gear seem a little too tall IMO.
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Old 09-27-23 | 10:11 AM
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The 4th and 5th gear results are inaccurate. They should be done in 6th gear which is 1:1 ratio gearing. The 4th and 5th gear pulls will surely show higher numbers.
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Old 09-27-23 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 95bat
The 4th and 5th gear results are inaccurate. They should be done in 6th gear which is 1:1 ratio gearing. The 4th and 5th gear pulls will surely show higher numbers.
Do you think they can correct for the gear ratio? I have never heard of needing to do the test in 1:1 gears. It probably isn't possible on the IS 500 due to the speed limiter anyway.


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