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#106
I shouldn’t let it get to me, but when someone complains about the steering feel, I just roll my eyes. I know exactly what the car is doing throughout the entire ride. He’s ridiculous.
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
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#107
I shouldn’t let it get to me, but when someone complains about the steering feel, I just roll my eyes. I know exactly what the car is doing throughout the entire ride. He’s ridiculous.
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
#108
No, the steering is definitely lightweight but IMO the jury's out on whether that's a bad thing or not. Altogether the car still feels balanced. When I get it out on the autocross track we'll see how much of a difference it makes (compared to RC F which has a lot heavier steering). The lightness may not matter much. Ultimately what's important is that the car can turn on a dime and go exactly where you want to put it.
I hit the gym four days a week and run errands on Saturdays. I probably shouldn’t say this publicly, but every day this car is out, it’ll kiss 100mph+. I know exactly what it’s doing and I feel super confident as a result.
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#109
In my opinion, the weight of the wheel vs what the tires/road/chassis are communicating up THROUGH the wheel are two different things.
I hit the gym four days a week and run errands on Saturdays. I probably shouldn’t say this publicly, but every day this car is out, it’ll kiss 100mph+. I know exactly what it’s doing and I feel super confident as a result.
I hit the gym four days a week and run errands on Saturdays. I probably shouldn’t say this publicly, but every day this car is out, it’ll kiss 100mph+. I know exactly what it’s doing and I feel super confident as a result.
It’s kinda sad that my old GX’s hydraulic rack has much better steering feel than the IS’s EPS (albeit nowhere near as accurate).
#110
For me, the steering feel could use a huge improvement. Yes, it’s accurate enough, but the steering wheel itself feels rather dead in your hands, too close to feeling like your piloting an arcade game. Little to no tactile feedback of bumps in the road, tires starting to lose grip, etc. Older Porsches were rarely the fastest but the feedback from their steering, and precision ratchetness of their shifters, were second to none, which made them a unique joy of to drive (well, excluding the 2011-2013 models).
It’s kinda sad that my old GX’s hydraulic rack has much better steering feel than the IS’s EPS (albeit nowhere near as accurate).
It’s kinda sad that my old GX’s hydraulic rack has much better steering feel than the IS’s EPS (albeit nowhere near as accurate).
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wthrman2 (05-20-22)
#111
Not sure if the IS 500 has the very same steering as the 350, but I will say, after driving the wife's 330i, I appreciate the IS's steering. That car has a weirdly quick steering rack that sometimes feels heavy and other times light. It doesn't feel anywhere near as precise as our ISes do. I got used to it, but I always feel a little more confident placing the IS on the road.
I know a lot of people don’t care about steering feel, but it’s a huge benefit that guys like me never knew we wanted until we were spoiled by a car that had it. Just allows one more sense into the driving enjoyment party. 11 years ago Porsche got it wrong when they put EPS on the 991, but they’ve since calibrated things to make it world class again. Wish other manufacturers would follow suit.
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#114
#115
And yes, she absolutely loves the car, but didn’t watch all 20 minutes to get her thoughts on the particulars.
Just to kick a dead horse, agreed, the steering is fine. It could definitely be much better though. Just an opportunity missed for those of us who appreciate, however unreasonably, such things. Much like an adjustable exhaust - the car would be that much more enjoyable if it had it, but not being present doesn’t ruin the car. Easy enough to change an exhaust, no idea how to reprogram an EPS.
Last edited by arentz07; 05-30-22 at 09:10 PM.
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#116
And yes, she absolutely loves the car, but didn’t watch all 20 minutes to get her thoughts on the particulars.
Just to kick a dead horse, agreed, the steering is fine. It could definitely be much better though. Just an opportunity missed for those of us who appreciate, however unreasonably, such things. Much like an adjustable exhaust - the car would be that much more enjoyable if it had it, but not being present doesn’t ruin the car. Easy enough to change an exhaust, no idea how to reprogram an EPS.
Just to kick a dead horse, agreed, the steering is fine. It could definitely be much better though. Just an opportunity missed for those of us who appreciate, however unreasonably, such things. Much like an adjustable exhaust - the car would be that much more enjoyable if it had it, but not being present doesn’t ruin the car. Easy enough to change an exhaust, no idea how to reprogram an EPS.
Last edited by arentz07; 05-30-22 at 09:11 PM.
#117
I shouldn’t let it get to me, but when someone complains about the steering feel, I just roll my eyes. I know exactly what the car is doing throughout the entire ride. He’s ridiculous.
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
Now his comment about the car not rolling from a stop, it happen once a few weeks back. Hopefully it was an anomaly.
EDIT: …and another thing, this car is GREAT in the twisties! Flat, no brake fade, the seats hug you… Lexus…go get your car back from that dude! 😉
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