IS 500 - CEL problem and update
02-02-22, 12:26 AM
#241
Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
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02-02-22, 02:45 AM
#242
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As a tech professional I’ll always lean toward the technology, but some things I’d rather not know. 😂
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02-02-22, 04:00 AM
#243
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Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
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02-02-22, 04:07 AM
#244
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Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
With respect to your prediction of a new interior - I could be proven wrong and I'll apologize if you are proven to be correct, but I just can't imagine how/why Lexus would change the interior of the IS 300/350/500 after two years into it's production. I think that Lexus did the 2021+ with the understanding this car is just to tie them over until the Full Model Change which I expect to be in 2025 using the same RWD platform that they are codeveloping with Mazda in which the Mazda 6 will ride on (as a RWD). I think, and again I could be wrong, that is when Lexus will release an IS F on that platform but will have a turbo V6 and will ditch the V8 all together so my prediction is that the IS 500 with the V8 will be only a few years in the making before they ditch the engine all together and that is why I can't see Lexus adopting the new interior until that happens. The difference between the IS 500 F Sport Performance and the IS F in 2025+ will be, in my opinion, with the turbo output and HP but again, all speculation on my part.
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02-02-22, 04:09 AM
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02-02-22, 05:11 AM
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Because the code occurs at fuel cut you'd have to accelerate pretty good so you can back right off the gas and capture data...and repeat likely a few times.
The best place to do this would be the highway.
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02-02-22, 05:50 AM
#247
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Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
02-02-22, 05:58 AM
#248
LE #68 here (so close to 69 arggg)…. 1300 miles and no CEL. Car is great. Only problem seems to be that my climate control doesn’t remember my settings sometimes when it’s parked overnight. Last night parked and had it on 74. Get in this morning and it’s set to 68. Odd, to say the least. Never had a car forget what temperature it was left on…..
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02-02-22, 06:40 AM
#249
Instructor
Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
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02-02-22, 06:41 AM
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Not to be a jerk, but I would like to stress what I have predicted back in Nov. 2021, do not buy the 1st model year of a new trim with major mechanical changes:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11169985
Now, as my prediction has been proven as above, my suggestion is:
1. After fixing the CEL issue, sell the IS500 to take advantage of the current high valuation in used car market;
2. Wait for the next or 3rd model year of IS500;
3. It is almost sure that the 2023 IS500 will get a brand new dash design, new display, new multimedia system with all new hardwares and OS, like the new NX and the upcoming new RX; it is also very possible Lexus will throw in mechanical enhancements as well for later model years (judging from past models, there is 100% possibility they will do this). In a nutshell, later model years of IS500 will have better technologies, drive/perform better, feel much solid and more reliable, more collectible, so it definitely worth the wait.
Consider that the IS500 is only for North American market...as much as Lexus spent some time designing the vehicle, they are definitely not going to sink money into redesigning the vehicle.
This version of the IS (300/350/500) is likely the last version of the car before it goes through a major redesign and most likely electrification.
The current version is already a major refresh, which happens once in a blue moon for Lexus/Toyota...it just wasn't a "let's change the front and rear lights, and maybe a bumper or two" refresh...it was literally an entire body replacement.
There is no way they are going to do that again...and the interior, except for some minor tweaks, is the same from 2014.
Also as the IS500 was launched for 2022, I think you can guarantee at least 3 year of the model...maybe a 4th year, but nothing beyond that...considering the body started life in 2021.
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02-02-22, 06:50 AM
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^^ You seem to say what I think so too 
Again, Felix may be right and I would be the first to admit I was wrong as I have no ego issue whatsoever....I think the years on the beach in my leopard skin speedo fixed that, but I agree that given the somewhat limited span of this 3.5G IS, I doubt they would go for a full interior refresh. I can see some goodies being added or minor tweaks being made, and for example, in Canada, we could see the sunroof added as a standard equipment where it is not available at all at the moment.
Again, Felix may be right and I would be the first to admit I was wrong as I have no ego issue whatsoever....I think the years on the beach in my leopard skin speedo fixed that, but I agree that given the somewhat limited span of this 3.5G IS, I doubt they would go for a full interior refresh. I can see some goodies being added or minor tweaks being made, and for example, in Canada, we could see the sunroof added as a standard equipment where it is not available at all at the moment.
02-02-22, 07:24 AM
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warm weather has nothing to do with it. Mine occurred in a chilly 30F Santa Fe afternoon. Nothings happened since returning to 70F Ca.
02-02-22, 07:32 AM
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02-02-22, 07:48 AM
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