SlowlaneAZ

I wonder if that waiver they're asking customers to sign is a liability waiver saying they are selling the product with intention of this car to not be driven on roads. Then they can ship to CA customers

Either way, I'm sure theres a workaround, especially with ARK being based in CA.

AmbyBomb

It's a pipe. Your options are resonated and non-resonated, with offerings in steel and titanium. Non-resonated is louder than resonated. The difference between manufacturers is minimal/you won't be able to notice.

SlowlaneAZ

Appreciate the info. This much I do understand. Moreso I'm wondering the difference from company to company, gt haus vs apex vs ppe. Pretty much identical except for price. PPE is several hundred dollars less. Is this the difference of buying from a larger manufacturer versus a smaller manufacturer.

I had my mind set on gt haus non resonated midpipe, until I found out PPE had mid pipes and theyre local to me.

AmbyBomb

There is no meaningful difference. Only so much flexibility in a pipe that has to fit in a confined space.

SlowlaneAZ

Cool I didn't think there was any major noticeable difference. Just wanted to make sure before I pulled the trigger on one.

From what I can tell, PPE is a two piece mid pipe, vs gthaus/apex, they're a one piece midpipe. That's the only major difference I can see. Outside of that, I guess I'm correct in saying a pipe is a pipe, relatively speaking of course.

Meraki Autoworks

iTrader: (8)

I asked Ark, they aren't going to ship within CA. We can help CA people though.

As far as the differences in midpipes, most of the options out there produce difference sounds so I would say that is the biggest difference.

-Josh

cp2

iTrader: (1)

Apexi comes in 2 pieces. I believe all this companies make the H pipe. not sure who made an X pipe. again difference and sound and this is due to how air flows. you can see the differences on YouTube.

AmbyBomb

Good luck to anyone who tries to differentiate between same type of midpipes (eg. resonated brand A to resonated brand B) using YouTube clips. Unrelated clips of the same midpipe can sound different.

cp2

iTrader: (1)

I concur. it's crazy to see the price differences between the companies when the pipes are very similar. of course, type materials (ie Ti vs SS), craftsmanship and additions (+ secondary cats or resonators) will add to the price deltas, but overall a SS pipe from vendor 1 vs SS pipe from vendor 2 would be difficult to differentiate (as far as sound).

SlowlaneAZ

Ppe has an x pipe and i believe rr racing will custom make thier midpipe with an x pipe if you request it.

subtl

Theres that one company that someone put up before for the custom titanium is500 exhauast, has an option for H pipe or X pipe. 5k for a full custom titanium exhaust.

Infrared500

Installed some parts I have had for a while including this Revel axle back.

SlowlaneAZ

Vids or it never happened

abdrury

I still think the best bang for your buck is having an exhaust shop remove the secondary cats and resonators and add an x-pipe.

AmbyBomb

It's definitely the cheapest option. For some of us, reversibility is important too.