2023 IS 500 Sales
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Looking back at the US auto market history, there always were someone buying a mass-produced car (thousands or tens of thousands units made), hoping it will be rare and collectible now and future. But they ended up suing the auto makers, because the factory made too many of a specific model which the owners felt that their cars were "less rare" and "less valuable".
1970s:
Cadillac Eldorado convertible buyer sued GM
1980-1990s:
BMW M5 buyer sued BMW
2020s:
Dodge Durango Hellcat owner sued Dodge for making the SUV for more than 1 model year
History will repeat itself again and again.
1970s:
Cadillac Eldorado convertible buyer sued GM
1980-1990s:
BMW M5 buyer sued BMW
2020s:
Dodge Durango Hellcat owner sued Dodge for making the SUV for more than 1 model year
History will repeat itself again and again.
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Looking back at the US auto market history, there always were someone buying a mass-produced car (thousands or tens of thousands units made), hoping it will be rare and collectible now and future. But they ended up suing the auto makers, because the factory made too many of a specific model which the owners felt that their cars were "less rare" and "less valuable".
1970s:
Cadillac Eldorado convertible buyer sued GM
1980-1990s:
BMW M5 buyer sued BMW
2020s:
Dodge Durango Hellcat owner sued Dodge for making the SUV for more than 1 model year
History will repeat itself again and again.
1970s:
Cadillac Eldorado convertible buyer sued GM
1980-1990s:
BMW M5 buyer sued BMW
2020s:
Dodge Durango Hellcat owner sued Dodge for making the SUV for more than 1 model year
History will repeat itself again and again.
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I paid MSRP for mine a couple weeks back. I'm in SF and the dealer was in LA, couple quick texts and phone call staying firm on MSRP only while they initially tried the $5,000 Mark-up and the $1,000 Cliajet? or whatever the coating is. Within 30 minutes they agreed to MSRP and no add-ons. Paid sticker + tax/registration etc. and picked up the car a few days after. There are some dealers that don't respond or quote via online inquiry or email and the ones that do all want $5-10K over saying these are special cars (which they are but not THAT special) or they have other buyers. The BEST thing you have is your ability to WALK. I was searching Autotrader/Cars.com/Cargurus and the Lexus website daily for 2 weeks and I checked again this week for ****s and giggles and there is more inventory than ever. Be patient, you'll get your car for MSRP or better.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
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I paid MSRP for mine a couple weeks back. I'm in SF and the dealer was in LA, couple quick texts and phone call staying firm on MSRP only while they initially tried the $5,000 Mark-up and the $1,000 Cliajet? or whatever the coating is. Within 30 minutes they agreed to MSRP and no add-ons. Paid sticker + tax/registration etc. and picked up the car a few days after. There are some dealers that don't respond or quote via online inquiry or email and the ones that do all want $5-10K over saying these are special cars (which they are but not THAT special) or they have other buyers. The BEST thing you have is your ability to WALK. I was searching Autotrader/Cars.com/Cargurus and the Lexus website daily for 2 weeks and I checked again this week for ****s and giggles and there is more inventory than ever. Be patient, you'll get your car for MSRP or better.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
and based on the members here... getting this vehicle at MSRP is a fair deal.. and the only ones that gets it below are usually have a long history with their dealership. So I decided to go with it.
At least I know I'm not getting taken advantage on the price.
#1070
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I'm getting mine at MSRP. Out the door is around $74k. The dealership said they weren't going to charge me the usual $2500 ADM. I still wanted to go lower but he said he's pretty much all in since these cars are in limited production.. I mean I agree they are.. for now..
and based on the members here... getting this vehicle at MSRP is a fair deal.. and the only ones that gets it below are usually have a long history with their dealership. So I decided to go with it.
At least I know I'm not getting taken advantage on the price.
and based on the members here... getting this vehicle at MSRP is a fair deal.. and the only ones that gets it below are usually have a long history with their dealership. So I decided to go with it.
At least I know I'm not getting taken advantage on the price.
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Seriously..,yep it’s 621 miles, then you can let it rip! It’s a beautiful day here today and everyone wanted to race. It was glorious, but I had to take my butt home and park him for a bit. The speeds were getting faster and held longer, making it difficult to look ahead for the cops. When my Spidey-Sense tingles, I listen. 😎
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IS500SM (03-18-23)
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I paid MSRP for mine a couple weeks back. I'm in SF and the dealer was in LA, couple quick texts and phone call staying firm on MSRP only while they initially tried the $5,000 Mark-up and the $1,000 Cliajet? or whatever the coating is. Within 30 minutes they agreed to MSRP and no add-ons. Paid sticker + tax/registration etc. and picked up the car a few days after. There are some dealers that don't respond or quote via online inquiry or email and the ones that do all want $5-10K over saying these are special cars (which they are but not THAT special) or they have other buyers. The BEST thing you have is your ability to WALK. I was searching Autotrader/Cars.com/Cargurus and the Lexus website daily for 2 weeks and I checked again this week for ****s and giggles and there is more inventory than ever. Be patient, you'll get your car for MSRP or better.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
I would've done the deal for the Iridium/Black at Portland, but even just a couple weeks ago they were playing the ADM game so I walked. Hopefully that's changed.
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IS500SM (03-18-23)
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In late January Lexus of Portland was feeding me BS about not selling to people not from Portland. Screw them. Glad to see LA dealers doing business. I used to live in SF and bought my F80 M3 from LA because bay area dealers were mostly crap (Peter Pan is okay). This was back in 2015 though.
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DLPTony (03-19-23)
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Ha ha, it’s taking me longer than I anticipated to hit the miles on my break in period. We’ve had some **** late winter early spring weather here, including massive windstorms with trees and branches everywhere. I didn’t dare take the 500 out of the garage for a few days, and I won’t drive her on the interstate until I can get a proper ceramic coat. Neighbors and co-workers laugh at me as the guy who bought a new car and just parked it in bubble wrap.
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Ha ha, it’s taking me longer than I anticipated to hit the miles on my break in period. We’ve had some **** late winter early spring weather here, including massive windstorms with trees and branches everywhere. I didn’t dare take the 500 out of the garage for a few days, and I won’t drive her on the interstate until I can get a proper ceramic coat. Neighbors and co-workers laugh at me as the guy who bought a new car and just parked it in bubble wrap.
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You are more disciplined than I was. I drove it in rain and the general dusty/pollen-y weather and have about 1100 miles on it already, after just over a month. When I got this car, I thought I'd save it for meets and mountain runs and drive it minimally outside of that. So far, that has not been the case... I run errands in it like going to the store and to the doctor's office, and have driven it a few times just to get out of the house. But, the way I see it, that is what this car was meant to do - to be a fun daily. ![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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arentz07 (03-20-23)
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Well, count me on the opposite end of the spectrum where mine will not even go out in the rain or wet roads to preserve the underbody and suspension to stay like assembly line condition. I have been laughed at and teased but i dont care, i love keeping my baby in the best condition possible ![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Well, count me on the opposite end of the spectrum where mine will not even go out in the rain or wet roads to preserve the underbody and suspension to stay like assembly line condition. I have be laughed at and teased but i dont care, i love keeping my baby in the best condition possible ![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Having a clean engine bay is probably the only thing you can reasonably control, and quite important in terms of visual appeal/resale value.
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