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Old 08-28-23, 08:31 AM
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Seems like there is a lot of emphasis on the color customization. Do they have any numerical data to show the performance benefit over stock?
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Originally Posted by arentz07
Seems like there is a lot of emphasis on the color customization. Do they have any numerical data to show the performance benefit over stock?
I don't necessarily think they need it, but my kit will be the first one installed on an IS500.

The way I look at it is this:

Every performance variant of a car comes with bigger calipers, rotors, and pads.

RC to RCF

330i to M3

RX350 to RX500

gs to GSF.

The increase in rotor size gives you more thermal mass. More clamping pressure from a bigger caliper usually isn't necessary, most cars can lock up the brakes with the stock setup, but thats not where the value is in a BBK. The pads on the IS500 are comically small, and all the kinetic energy is transferred to heat energy through that tiny pad.

It's in thermal transfer efficiency and thermal mass.

A lot of companies and OEM's have done the engineering and research already.

Edit: But you’re right, a lot of people install BBK's for the subjective improvement to the aesthetic of the car.
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BBKs can also increase braking distance. Where they shine is repeated abuse. For 95% of IS500 owners, the stock setup is fine with at most better pads being needed. That said, this kit looks great. Can't say I haven't been tempted to join the buy.
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Originally Posted by AmbyBomb
BBKs can also increase braking distance. Where they shine is repeated abuse. For 95% of IS500 owners, the stock setup is fine with at most better pads being needed. That said, this kit looks great. Can't say I haven't been tempted to join the buy.
Stopping distance really depends on pad compound and tire tread life. If you go with a race pad, your braking distance is going to suck unless your brakes are HOT. thats true with the stock caliper and rotor, and with a BBK.
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Exactly. For the people looking to improve daily driving braking distance, better pads and tires are the solution.
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Originally Posted by AmbyBomb
Exactly. For the people looking to improve daily driving braking distance, better pads and tires are the solution.
But BBK's are pretty. Not to mention, a car of this caliber deserves it.
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The setup looks great, I don't disagree.
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Who makes the hardware for BBMS?
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Originally Posted by Bechtold
Who makes the hardware for BBMS?

As far as the brackets? or what part are you referring to?

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The brackets are all machined out of US 6061 Aluminum. The machining is done in the BBMS machine shop in Taiwan.

The pads are standard brembo gt6 and gt4 size pads.
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Originally Posted by Pittsy
As far as the brackets? or what part are you referring to?
Calipers, etc. Was wondering if it was a modified "insert brand here".
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Originally Posted by Bechtold
Calipers, etc. Was wondering if it was a modified "insert brand here".
The calipers are made by BBMS. They're brembo style though, and take brembo pads. it's all done at their machine shop in Taiwan.
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Originally Posted by Pittsy
The calipers are made by BBMS. They're brembo style though, and take brembo pads. it's all done at their machine shop in Taiwan.
Ah i thought the kits were going to use brembo calipers. I'm out.
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Originally Posted by Pandonsf
Ah i thought the kits were going to use brembo calipers. I'm out.
Yeah they're made in the same machine shop as APR brakes, thats good enough for me.
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I should have the first set arriving here in the next 2 weeks for you all to take a look at installed on my car.
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