2007 is350 vs. 330i?
09-17-06, 01:39 AM
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Thats right... now I remember someone posting that before too. But i just forgot. Oh wells... guess the IS 350 couldnt stay king of straight line speed in its class for that long... now just gotta wait for the G35c and see what that gives...
09-17-06, 02:05 AM
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Personally, I don't care for turbos, so the 335 doesn't carry much weight for me. I was happy with my 184 Hp 325, and really happy with the 306 Hp. I kinda jumped the gun and got the IS 350 without test driving the 3 series coupe. I checked out the 328 Coupe today. I can honestly say I didn't leave shaking my head that I made the wrong decision. I happily went back to the Lexus. The BMW's exterior is nice, but the interior still sucks. In some ways, I think all the car mags and BMW owners let them get away with murder. Any other manufacturer listens to the reviews and changes things just like the '07 350 got a cutoff switch for the VDIM. All the mags and the owners claim the BMW to be the handling champ and let the interior slide. As a consumer, we shouldn't feel we got a great handling car at the expense of a cheap interior. For the money, Lexus just has the best overall package. I jumped the gun, but at this point I have no regrets. :-)
As far as the horsepower war, there's never a winner. Naturally aspiration, turbo charged, supercharged, there's room for all of them. Luckily, competion brings advancement.
As far as the horsepower war, there's never a winner. Naturally aspiration, turbo charged, supercharged, there's room for all of them. Luckily, competion brings advancement.
09-17-06, 02:15 AM
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I dont think that a car is considered stock even when the manufacturer adds the turbo. If you add a supercharger or turbocharger to an IS350, than I would agree with you about comparing it to 335..... The REAL test is when BOTH cars have forced induction OR they both DON'T have it. Either way, if people were comparing it to 330i from the begining than why not RE-compare it to the same car? In the end, either, add a turbo to an is350 or wait until Lexus pops a new coupe with forced induction to compare it to 335.....
09-17-06, 07:00 AM
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^^^ If the only thing you see is the price difference than why do people compare a lancer, evo, sti to a M3 or M5 or some other AMGs? If you dont wanna call it a STOCK than make up some other word, but the bottom line is that a forced induction device is NOT part of the ENGINE! A good engineering is when you compare a bare-boned engine vs. engine.
For the people who agree with this, it's good that you see the point. My orginal thought for argument was to compare the 330i vs. is350 (i.e SAME CLASS). The only major difference between the 2007 is350 is the addition of the cutoff switch, that's IT! So it would not be wrong to compare the 2006 330i to the new IS350.....
For the people who agree with this, it's good that you see the point. My orginal thought for argument was to compare the 330i vs. is350 (i.e SAME CLASS). The only major difference between the 2007 is350 is the addition of the cutoff switch, that's IT! So it would not be wrong to compare the 2006 330i to the new IS350.....
09-17-06, 08:11 AM
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^^^ If the only thing you see is the price difference than why do people compare a lancer, evo, sti to a M3 or M5 or some other AMGs? If you dont wanna call it a STOCK than make up some other word, but the bottom line is that a forced induction device is NOT part of the ENGINE! A good engineering is when you compare a bare-boned engine vs. engine.
For the people who agree with this, it's good that you see the point. My orginal thought for argument was to compare the 330i vs. is350 (i.e SAME CLASS). The only major difference between the 2007 is350 is the addition of the cutoff switch, that's IT! So it would not be wrong to compare the 2006 330i to the new IS350.....
For the people who agree with this, it's good that you see the point. My orginal thought for argument was to compare the 330i vs. is350 (i.e SAME CLASS). The only major difference between the 2007 is350 is the addition of the cutoff switch, that's IT! So it would not be wrong to compare the 2006 330i to the new IS350.....
I don't see anyone comparing those cars to IS350's... I see the IS500 being compared to the M3. Some may ask a somple question of they can or can't take an Evo or STi, but they are not directly comparing them.
By your logic, G35 owners can claim our cars as not beign stock becuase we have a 6 speed auto compared to their 5 speed auto and that the transmission is not part of the engine. Bottom line is that if it isn't aftermarket, it IS stock. It can only be one of the two. Since the 335i is coming straight from the BMW factories with the turbo, it is not aftermarket, hence it is stock. There is no need to come up with a "different" word for it, when the word "stock" is what it is.
09-17-06, 09:28 AM
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LOL TURBO CAR ARE NOT STOCK? wut am i reading here LAMO, that's a first, the 335I is design to compete with the 350, that's the whole point of the 335, to out perform the 350, turbo or not, it's still a stock car.....do not even talk about after market stuff, 330i doesn't even exist anymore in 2007
if u say we can't compare turbo, i guess the only car u can compare is the M3, that's the best N/A engine ever, and that's 6 years ago
3.2L producing 333hp, beat that toyota
and i am a lexus fan too so....
if u say we can't compare turbo, i guess the only car u can compare is the M3, that's the best N/A engine ever, and that's 6 years ago
3.2L producing 333hp, beat that toyota
and i am a lexus fan too so....
09-17-06, 09:34 AM
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I don't see anyone comparing those cars to IS350's... I see the IS500 being compared to the M3. Some may ask a somple question of they can or can't take an Evo or STi, but they are not directly comparing them.
By your logic, G35 owners can claim our cars as not beign stock becuase we have a 6 speed auto compared to their 5 speed auto and that the transmission is not part of the engine. Bottom line is that if it isn't aftermarket, it IS stock. It can only be one of the two. Since the 335i is coming straight from the BMW factories with the turbo, it is not aftermarket, hence it is stock. There is no need to come up with a "different" word for it, when the word "stock" is what it is.
By your logic, G35 owners can claim our cars as not beign stock becuase we have a 6 speed auto compared to their 5 speed auto and that the transmission is not part of the engine. Bottom line is that if it isn't aftermarket, it IS stock. It can only be one of the two. Since the 335i is coming straight from the BMW factories with the turbo, it is not aftermarket, hence it is stock. There is no need to come up with a "different" word for it, when the word "stock" is what it is.
09-17-06, 09:37 AM
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09-17-06, 11:00 AM
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I am not sure what it is that you are so hung up about the rematch..Like boxing, champions come and go pretty quick... even if you had a shot of the old champ... there's still a new champ to beat.
09-17-06, 11:04 AM
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just because bmw change to 335 doesn't mean u can't compare it, when 330i was out IS 350 wasn't even out, therefore people compare it to IS 300, but now since IS 350 is out who compare it to the IS 300, TELL ME?
the same thing go for 335 and 330, and y do u think it makes it fair to compare a 2007 IS 350 to a 2006 330i just beacuse there is a traction control cut of switch.
the same thing go for 335 and 330, and y do u think it makes it fair to compare a 2007 IS 350 to a 2006 330i just beacuse there is a traction control cut of switch.
09-17-06, 12:42 PM
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just because bmw change to 335 doesn't mean u can't compare it, when 330i was out IS 350 wasn't even out, therefore people compare it to IS 300, but now since IS 350 is out who compare it to the IS 300, TELL ME?
the same thing go for 335 and 330, and y do u think it makes it fair to compare a 2007 IS 350 to a 2006 330i just beacuse there is a traction control cut of switch.
the same thing go for 335 and 330, and y do u think it makes it fair to compare a 2007 IS 350 to a 2006 330i just beacuse there is a traction control cut of switch.
The only 3-series sedan produced at the same time as the 2007 IS is the 2007 328i and 335i. The 330i has been out of production for a while now.
09-17-06, 12:48 PM
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Ya you're right you can still compare it... but big magazines wont do it. You can hire someone to do it or even better compare it yourself.
Magazines wont comapre the 07 IS 350 to a 06 330i anymore because its a waste of time and money. Even if the IS 350 will beat out the 330i who cares? No one can buy the 330 anymore. It has to be compared to the new 335. thats where the interest is now. Why should I buy a IS 350 over a 335i or vice versa...
Magazines wont comapre the 07 IS 350 to a 06 330i anymore because its a waste of time and money. Even if the IS 350 will beat out the 330i who cares? No one can buy the 330 anymore. It has to be compared to the new 335. thats where the interest is now. Why should I buy a IS 350 over a 335i or vice versa...
09-17-06, 12:59 PM
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you compare what customers compare... and customers compare 335i to IS350... I cant wait to see actually comparos and differences in 1/4mile... And keep in mind that you pay 4k-5k more for 335i, and you get less features.