Cornellian

Okay, so one thing I have been wondering is how come no one has compared the 2007 is350 with the BMW 330i. I mean, all of the 2006 reviews complain about how Lexus is pretty close, BUT it would have been nice if there was a Traction control button to turn the VDIM off....

In 2006 their excuse was that "Lexus would be up there with the BMW and be comparable [IF] it had the VDIM cutoff switch..." Now since is350 has the cutoff switch, I guess their excuse this time would probably be that the 330i has a better "feel" to it OVERALL.

NOW you can turn off the VDIM, so why not compare it to the 330i now?!?!?

DrShoe

Because BMW came out with the 335i which is a twin-turbo inline 6. The 335i sedan will come soon following the already released 335i coupe so comparing a 07 IS350 to a 06 330i is kinda irrelevant now.

Cornellian

Yea, that's true, but I don't think it would be wise to compare a non-turbo with a turbo car. Seems like all the magazines were ******ing about getting a cutoff switch for the 350, and now that it is avalible they should do a comparsion.... just my thought.

rooster

lamo y can't u compare a non turbo car to a turbo, just like 997 turbo vs F430 they are car that compete against each other, and should be compared

Cornellian

Well..... IS 350 and 335 are totally two different cars to begin with. Remember, IS350 is stock with no forced induction. I dont think that a car is considered stock even when the manufacturer adds the turbo. If you add a supercharger or turbocharger to an IS350, than I would agree with you about comparing it to 335..... The REAL test is when BOTH cars have forced induction OR they both DON'T have it. Either way, if people were comparing it to 330i from the begining than why not RE-compare it to the same car? In the end, either, add a turbo to an is350 or wait until Lexus pops a new coupe with forced induction to compare it to 335.....

rooster

LOL TURBO CAR ARE NOT STOCK? wut am i reading here LAMO, that's a first, the 335I is design to compete with the 350, that's the whole point of the 335, to out perform the 350, turbo or not, it's still a stock car.....do not even talk about after market stuff, 330i doesn't even exist anymore in 2007
if u say we can't compare turbo, i guess the only car u can compare is the M3, that's the best N/A engine ever, and that's 6 years ago
3.2L producing 333hp, beat that toyota
and i am a lexus fan too so....

Cornellian

Well.....It would be stupid to compare a STI to a Ferrari, Lambo, or GT2. Comparing Ferrari to a Lambo or a GT2 makes sense. NOT a STI! An engine is stock when it is properly desinged to produce desired HP/TQ. A turbo is an external component hooked to an engine to just boost its HP/TQ and it is NOT part of the ENGINE! That is why I dont consider a car with forced induction mechanism a STOCK! It is like having your car on Steroids....makes no sense. An analogy comes to mind when arguing about this.... would a track runner taking steroids be considered a good competitor with someone who is NOT?

Even tho M3 is totally different car it kicks 350's a$$ and that's respectable

rooster

ok, wut ever u say, no point in arguing, but i'll take a 997 turbo in a heart beat 0-60 in 3.7 sec with the slush box, turbo as well as s/c have proven itself, if not y do u think so many cars are equiped with turbo and s/c, almost the whole AMG line was S/C. Just because 335i is turbo, u don't have to hate it.

Cornellian

Agreed coz I can argue about this all day backing it up with loads of info. Anyway, don't get me wrong, but I don't hate the 335i. I respect and love BMWs. But when it comes to comparison don't compare 350 and 330i and then go on offtrack and compare 350 to 335i....totally different cars!

omgitsroy

iTrader: (1)

when people have these on going bmw vs lexus... do the people arguing own a lexus? it seems like they're bimmer people that are bored...

rooster

the 330i doesn't exist in 2007 so u can only compare to 328i or M3 if u want to compare N/A, i do own a lexus, not a IS, i own a RX and an Audi

Cornellian

I know that the 2007 330i is not available, but the only MAJOR thing changed on the 2007 is350 is the addition of cutoff switch and the model is still the same. In fact, the 2006 330i had the traction cutoff available. That's the only major difference, so it wouldn't be wrong to compare 2007 is350 to 2006 330i...

newr

why don't you compare the two and then let us know?

EBMCS03

I agree with you Pimp350. you can very much compare a Turbo or Supercharged engine to a N/A engine.

Prime example... Supercharged Mercedes E55 AMG vs Naturally Aspariated BMW M5.

Another thing is the IS and 3 series are both in the same class... Small car... really doesnt matter if its a sedan or coupe. They're both small. Small enough where the back seat ummm really doesnt matter if you got 2 more doors or not. I'm sure there are people who would consider a 335 coupe or a IS 350 sedan. Believe it or not there is market share between them.

I'm waiting to see a comparison between the 335 sedan or coupe against the IS 350. Ya the BMW will outhandle the IS but I want to see the straight line numbers.

05RollaXRS

Car and driver in their latest edition tested the 335i with automatic transmission and it turned in a 4.9 sec 0-60 and 13.6@105mph quartermile. The 6 speed manual has not been tested yet.