Just got a ride in the IS-F
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correct, if you have driven stick shift before you would know how to double clutch or rev match to create a ultra smooth down shift
for example, in your 2is, if you are going 60mph in 5th gear, suddenly you down shift to 2nd (assume no red line), i bet the car jerks like hell. but the blipping to give gas and rev the engine up to 5000rpm or so first before engaging the gear
for example, in your 2is, if you are going 60mph in 5th gear, suddenly you down shift to 2nd (assume no red line), i bet the car jerks like hell. but the blipping to give gas and rev the engine up to 5000rpm or so first before engaging the gear
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
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I'm probably overthinking this, but in a manual, if you downshift from say 5th to 3rd, and do nothing with the gas, the rpms of course jump way up and the car jerks. How does adding gas make a car jerk less, in a manual anyway? If anything wouldn't adding gas make the rpms go even higher than they would have otherwise?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
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Good deal! It looks good in red. I'd love to see some more color combinations.
The front badge looks "eh", too decal like. It's still not black chrome for the grill surround and they didn't change the exhaust (J/K I didn't expect that). If several show up at SEMA it will be interesting to see what they have done to it.
I'm very surprised to hear about the brakes. That sounds odd.
Overall looks and sounds good though. C'mon 2008.
The front badge looks "eh", too decal like. It's still not black chrome for the grill surround and they didn't change the exhaust (J/K I didn't expect that). If several show up at SEMA it will be interesting to see what they have done to it.
I'm very surprised to hear about the brakes. That sounds odd.
Overall looks and sounds good though. C'mon 2008.
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I do have 1 question for anyone who knows...
Q: Shortly after the press release someone confirmed that the gear shift *Direction* in the manual mode would have the *+* sign at the bottom and *-* sign on top. However, in all these pictures it's the same as IS350. So, should it not be the opposite of current models since, I thought Lexus said they would fix it by the time IS-F comes out (i.e IS350, GS, etc..)?!?!?
Q: Shortly after the press release someone confirmed that the gear shift *Direction* in the manual mode would have the *+* sign at the bottom and *-* sign on top. However, in all these pictures it's the same as IS350. So, should it not be the opposite of current models since, I thought Lexus said they would fix it by the time IS-F comes out (i.e IS350, GS, etc..)?!?!?
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I'm probably overthinking this, but in a manual, if you downshift from say 5th to 3rd, and do nothing with the gas, the rpms of course jump way up and the car jerks. How does adding gas make a car jerk less, in a manual anyway? If anything wouldn't adding gas make the rpms go even higher than they would have otherwise?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
Wow, now I have to decide what color I want. That blue looks awesome.
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I'm probably overthinking this, but in a manual, if you downshift from say 5th to 3rd, and do nothing with the gas, the rpms of course jump way up and the car jerks. How does adding gas make a car jerk less, in a manual anyway? If anything wouldn't adding gas make the rpms go even higher than they would have otherwise?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
Or is it that when you put the clutch in the rpms drop off, and the "blip" is adding gas to bring the rpms back up to near what they would be when the gear is engaged?
Also you will lose some revs during a gear change, so blipping does two things, keep the power consistant instead of a momentary loss and keeps the gear changes smooth
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ES3... if you drive an automatic.. you can see that the tranny does something similar so you don't feel the jerk in your car when it changes gears... (usually downshift) In a manual this luxury is taken away and to make up for you ... you hit the gas a little to match the rpm for a smoother transition...
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in my last car, manual 2000 prelude, I would always give it a little bit of gas to rev match when changing gears on up and downshifts, which made for very smooth gear changes. I could change gears smoother than most automatics.
Also you will lose some revs during a gear change, so blipping does two things, keep the power consistant instead of a momentary loss and keeps the gear changes smooth
Also you will lose some revs during a gear change, so blipping does two things, keep the power consistant instead of a momentary loss and keeps the gear changes smooth
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Not really. It just keeps the chassis from getting upset.
You guys who don't get this need to ride a bike. If you don't blip the throttle on a bike, you end up on your head. It's fundamental to being smooth.
You guys who don't get this need to ride a bike. If you don't blip the throttle on a bike, you end up on your head. It's fundamental to being smooth.
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^^^ Correct
Throttle blipping has most of its benefits on a track. It uses the engine to help brake in to a turn, and allows for smooth turn ins into the turn without changing your momentum and sliding out of your line or apex. Doing all that will put you in a lower gear and in optimal power range to exit the corner.
Throttle blipping has most of its benefits on a track. It uses the engine to help brake in to a turn, and allows for smooth turn ins into the turn without changing your momentum and sliding out of your line or apex. Doing all that will put you in a lower gear and in optimal power range to exit the corner.
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If you are using the engine to brake into a turn, you really need a track day with a competent instructor.
There is only ONE reason to blip the throttle - match engine speed with road speed and NOT upset the chassis. There is no other reason, and it has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with smoothness.
SERIOUSLY - some of you guys need to ride a bike at speed. You'd get an education you can't get with four wheels under you.
There is only ONE reason to blip the throttle - match engine speed with road speed and NOT upset the chassis. There is no other reason, and it has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with smoothness.
SERIOUSLY - some of you guys need to ride a bike at speed. You'd get an education you can't get with four wheels under you.
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If you are using the engine to brake into a turn, you really need a track day with a competent instructor.
There is only ONE reason to blip the throttle - match engine speed with road speed and NOT upset the chassis. There is no other reason, and it has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with smoothness.
SERIOUSLY - some of you guys need to ride a bike at speed. You'd get an education you can't get with four wheels under you.
There is only ONE reason to blip the throttle - match engine speed with road speed and NOT upset the chassis. There is no other reason, and it has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with smoothness.
SERIOUSLY - some of you guys need to ride a bike at speed. You'd get an education you can't get with four wheels under you.