LexFather

I'm trying to figure that out too.

NINEZeRO

0-60 standing is always fater than 5-60 street start.

bagwell

if you're truly concerned about this.....its the wrong car for you.

99% of the time, the more sporty and better handling a car is, the rougher it will ride.


but with an estimated $64000 as tested price tag....FORGET IT!!

Manoj

I was expecting Adaptive Suspension based on driving Mode.... but thats not the case with IS-F! Unlike its competitors...

and to settle with Stiffer suspension for daily driving with such a hefty price tag of $65000K and taxes

I will prefer to be ONE sec slower and better Daily Driver car and save $20,000 with IS350

bagwell

IS-F is a full fledged uncompromising sports car....
of course for $64K you could save yourself $20K and get a 438hp vette that would kill the IS-F and not be mistaken for a "regular" IS [I may be a little biased]

inxexisten

Or you could spend a little more and get GTR.... which is better in speed and performance and probably reliability too http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6280...-nu/index.html

aco

First time I ever heard anyone say that a Nissan would be more reliable than a Lexus. How do you figure?

inxexisten

Haha nah i didnt mean that.... ofcourse not lexus is the most reliable brand period... i meant more reliable than a corvette...

Manoj

How fast will a IS-F go on Nurburing high 8's ???????????

CRB

The short answer is plenty of drivetrain abuse is involved in that 0-60 mph number. Obviously, Lexus left the nannies off the launch programming. The 5-60 mph rolling start is just dropping the hammer when the car is moving already. C&D readily admits that most owners wouldn't want to do what they do to get their published numbers. That is a great number for a sedan, really, really fast!

NINEZeRO

car and driver is usually biased towards bimmers, so if they think this car is great, im sure it is. i haven't read the review yet.

XeroK00L

Read the Edmunds's second opinion, where an editor disagrees with what's said about the harsh ride in the main article. Just goes to show how differently a different butt can feel.

C&D did give the IS-F's ride the highest praise ever: "At leisure speeds, the air is hushed, Lexus-like, with just a distant snort from the engine and the extra thrum of the fat summer Michelins disturbing the peace. Given the low profile of the rubber mounted to the 19-inch forged aluminum rims, the ride is tightly controlled but commendably mellow. The ride-and-handling balance is perhaps the IS F’s biggest achievement. It makes allowances for road fissures and drops the body into holes with cushioned lurches."

So it's up to us the readers to decide whom to believe.

llamaboiz

Magazine numbers... ie: Carrera GT 0-60 3.6sec, in the real world? more like 5sec, why? actually harnessing the power to the tires contact patches is a bit different in the real world...

BUT average driver in is-f? beliveable... is-f is auto, just mash the peddle with a 'sport' type TC, auto will always go quicker in a straight line... hmm... yea sounds good. 60k thou... there are some very capable cars in the 60k range, stock or modified to a 60k limit. Apples n oranges you say? I dunno, 60k is a huge chunk of change either way you decide to spend it...

These factory hyper sedans are nice no doubt, i would love to own one but i wouldnt wanna pay my own money to buy one. Truth is, a is350 is all you really need for a competent street car. IS-F is just a matchbox toy for rich ppl who will soon get bored of it when the next latest and greatest car comes around.

Celsius

iTrader: (1)

EXACTLY!

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

I don't really understand all of the gripes about pricing from you people. All of the comments about M3's and GT-R's and whatever else.

The GT-R will likely be priced FROM 70K and is a bare bones performance car. The IS-F is a different animal and will offer many creature comforts and luxury extras that the Nissan won't. IS-F to GTR is apples to oranges, so if you are comparing the two perhaps you need to rethink your priorities.

Second, this car is going to be priced a few thousand less than the M3, RS4, and C63 while offering the same or better performance. The reviews so far have been basically glowing- 416HP, 0-60 in 4.6 sec, beautiful exhaust note, perhaps better handling than the M3, 8DS tranny, four doors, Lexus quality and interior features, stunning exterior...I guess I am wondering what about this car ISN'T worth 60K?

I'm really, really puzzled with many of you Maybe if the reviews were bad I would understand but EVERY review has noted this as a phenomenal drivers car and praised the handling and performance. The M3 received mixed notions on such characteristics. Who would have thought a Lexus could out-handle the mighty M3? And even backing that up is one of the best 8 cylinder engines on the market, with a flawless transmission.

I don't get it.