View Poll Results: Are you happy with the IS-F's speed performance?
I'm very disappointed with the numbers
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29.84%
I'm very happy with the numbers
35
28.23%
I'm neither too happy nor too disappointed
52
41.94%
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Are you happy or disappointed with the IS-F numbers?
10-25-07, 03:10 PM
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10-25-07, 04:09 PM
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muffler has ONE tip, bumper has TWO holes.. now, that is lame.
@ 3800lbs + 170lbs driver and this car can move to 60 in 4.2s and 1/4 in 12.7s @ 114mph is damn quick. Even though only C&D manages that time so far, but this proves the car is capable of achieving it. The C63 weights similar and pulls the same time with 457hp and 443 ft lbs. Who else think the IS-F engine is underated?
10-25-07, 04:26 PM
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That is one BIG muffler though. It's probably about the size of 2 regular mufflers combined. With 8 cylinders operating @ 8300 RPM, yes, it NEEDS all that exhaust outlets
muffler has ONE tip, bumper has TWO holes.. now, that is lame.
@ 3800lbs + 170lbs driver and this car can move to 60 in 4.2s and 1/4 in 12.7s @ 114mph is damn quick. Even though only C&D manages that time so far, but this proves the car is capable of achieving it. The C63 weights similar and pulls the same time with 457hp and 443 ft lbs. Who else think the IS-F engine is underated?
muffler has ONE tip, bumper has TWO holes.. now, that is lame.
@ 3800lbs + 170lbs driver and this car can move to 60 in 4.2s and 1/4 in 12.7s @ 114mph is damn quick. Even though only C&D manages that time so far, but this proves the car is capable of achieving it. The C63 weights similar and pulls the same time with 457hp and 443 ft lbs. Who else think the IS-F engine is underated?
This IS-F is a true beast. The engine is a gem!!
10-25-07, 05:08 PM
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That is one BIG muffler though. It's probably about the size of 2 regular mufflers combined. With 8 cylinders operating @ 8300 RPM, yes, it NEEDS all that exhaust outlets
muffler has ONE tip, bumper has TWO holes.. now, that is lame.
@ 3800lbs + 170lbs driver and this car can move to 60 in 4.2s and 1/4 in 12.7s @ 114mph is damn quick. Even though only C&D manages that time so far, but this proves the car is capable of achieving it. The C63 weights similar and pulls the same time with 457hp and 443 ft lbs. Who else think the IS-F engine is underated?
muffler has ONE tip, bumper has TWO holes.. now, that is lame.
@ 3800lbs + 170lbs driver and this car can move to 60 in 4.2s and 1/4 in 12.7s @ 114mph is damn quick. Even though only C&D manages that time so far, but this proves the car is capable of achieving it. The C63 weights similar and pulls the same time with 457hp and 443 ft lbs. Who else think the IS-F engine is underated?
10-25-07, 08:47 PM
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10-30-07, 04:42 PM
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Domestic or not, at least those tips are real. What were the idiots who designed this thinking when they were doing it? "Maybe we can fool all the people as long as we have chrome-looking-things?" "No Toyota-San, we can spin them as weight savings feature"
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
lexus lists the official 0-60 in 4.6 on http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html
4 tips coming out of a single piece domestic-looking muffler on the new M3
4 tips coming out of a single piece domestic-looking muffler on the new M3
10-30-07, 06:49 PM
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Domestic or not, at least those tips are real. What were the idiots who designed this thinking when they were doing it? "Maybe we can fool all the people as long as we have chrome-looking-things?" "No Toyota-San, we can spin them as weight savings feature"
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
Ill take the isf wanna be real tips anyday
10-30-07, 08:48 PM
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Domestic or not, at least those tips are real. What were the idiots who designed this thinking when they were doing it? "Maybe we can fool all the people as long as we have chrome-looking-things?" "No Toyota-San, we can spin them as weight savings feature"
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
So before you continue to spout off on the IS-F exhaust, how about the BMW useless fender vents.
10-31-07, 06:19 AM
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Domestic or not, at least those tips are real. What were the idiots who designed this thinking when they were doing it? "Maybe we can fool all the people as long as we have chrome-looking-things?" "No Toyota-San, we can spin them as weight savings feature"
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
Attachment 113608
As for performance numbers go, it's about what was expected. Heavy sled with slow-reving motor. Basically IS350 stuffed with V8.
10-31-07, 06:30 AM
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You damn right I'm biased. Biased toward performance cars and biased against performance-wannabe.
10-31-07, 08:08 AM
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1) You Claim to be an enthusiast yet, you don't know squat about cars and how they're designed, built, and engineered!
2) You claim to be a performance car enthusiast yet, you're b..iching about some stupid aesthetic muffler tips that can be easily modified. Moreover, the tips don't have any major significance on the performance of the car! The looks of the tips are subjective as some may like it and others' may not.
3) The IS-F being the very 1st of it's kind has a performance (i.e. suspension, engine performance, feel, etc) similar to the all *Hailed* German cars! Now, keep in mind that this is their 1st attempt! And they're able to be ON PAR with the German boys. Which, is pretty good.
4) Do you know about the "Toyota Way" and the "Toyota Production System"? I doubt it. That being said, the all mighty German companies are using the same principles and hailing Toyota Production System and how they do business! A good example of that is beating Benz in luxury few years after they launched the Lexus brand. Now, it's going to happen again with performance. Too bad though, since, people like you ("Enthusiast-wanabee") don't take competition seriously.
5) And as far as "Tradition" and "History" of a company having experience in the Motorsports world goes, IMO, is a total marketing BS! And I'm saying this from experience of ACTUALLY having worked at Toyota and currently designing and building my own engine! I can make a better car and an engine than most of the car companies, given enough resources at hand!
I am not trying to be a "Clue-less Lexus Fanboy" but, I am looking at things from a wider perspective as I think all the cars in this segment are amazing! And I've owned 2 of the 3 German Cars. So, save the "Lexus Fanboy" argument!
So, before you go and start bashing someone who is JUST getting into the business, I suggest you start thinking outside of the "Typical Clue-less Fanboy" world! Because while building a "Well Rounded" car incorporates not just Performance but, cost as well. And that is a Challenge! If you want ALL OUT performance car than just go and buy a souped up STI or something. Making a car involves maintaining Performance, Luxury, Cost, and Efficiency! And IMO, Lexus in the near future will be able to do that like no one has done it before! Companies nowadays meet either 1 or 2 of these criteria but, Lexus is aiming for all of them!
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10-31-07, 08:15 AM
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Take a few days off to re-read the rules and maybe you can post in a constructive manner. There are ways to voice your opinion without offending Lexus owners on a Lexus forum.