gengar

You mean, you want a different look for the IS-F. Don't speak for everybody, because I sure don't and there have been many people on this forum who have said they would rather have the base IS styling. I for one would be happier if it looked exactly like the IS350.

MMD

If you're talking to me, you obviously don't comprehend English very well.

I can tell the difference. I was commenting on the obvious differences which, in my opinion, just aren't enough. I'm a Lexus owner (two of them) and a performance car enthusiast who knows enough about cars to understand the difference between an IS350 and an IS-F (3-series and M3, etc.). Read my post again and if you don't see the point of my comments or don't value my opinion that would be your problem not mine.

MMD

You're going to be very happy because there really isn't much difference. Sure the front end is a bit longer due to the V8. There are the side vents and integrated lower body molding and there's the quad pipes. Other than that and the IS-F badging it's an IS350 and the interior is quite similar too. Different instrumentation and seats and of course the materials are different but to the average non-enthusiast, the IS-F will seem to be just like the IS350 or 250 inside and out.

Joe Z

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Congrats to your Dad on the new purchase...

If you can try to take some detailed pics of the real muffler exhaust tips and how they finally decided to route them into the faux tips in the bumper

There have been at least 3-6 IS-F's sold in CA (if not more) within the last 5 days..

The cars started hitting the dealerships approx 1/28-1/30 (off the trucks)

Many of them were picked up the next day after the PDI was completed..

I know Longo had their 1st one delivered this week and it was pre-sold & picked up shortly after... I don't think it was even their longer than 1-2 days..

Many of the high # yeilding dealerships in CA, got their 1st IS-F delivered this past week.

Joe Z

gengar

As I already expressed, I (not to mention others who have posted on this forum) are not very happy because it's far too different from the base IS for our tastes. Of course, that isn't keeping most of us from appreciating the car for what it is.

I'm sorry that you feel Lexus "dropped the ball" only because there aren't enough different physical characteristics tailored to your liking, but outside of this very limited personal opinion, you should keep in mind that there are plenty of people who have expressed dissatisfaction in the opposite direction.


I wouldn't mind an SMG as it'd result in more power to the wheels, but it's Lexus we're talking about here - I doubt it's going to happen.

4TehNguyen

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why would a non enthusiast even care about M, AMG, RS, F models, and why would you care if they could tell the difference or not. The halo models arent trying to please or attract non enthusiasts

f=ma

here we go

f=ma

My Favorite Pictures

CrazyMPG

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very nice!

MMD

Do you really need to ask me those questions?

Of course non-enthusiasts care about halo models. They buy them all the time but often not for the same reasons the enthusiasts buy them for.

I don't care if they can tell the difference or not.

Halo models don't please anyone but the car manufacturers do with their halo models

In this segment, the target for the manufacturers is the M3 which is the class/segment leader and has been for years. The M3 is recognized as the leader and BMW does what it wants while others need to try to compete.

Does the M3 appear to be different than the standard 3 series cars? You bet. But what they do, as I said, doesn't matter as much. In my opinion, the issue is how the followers (competitors) compete.

In my opinion, Lexus did a fine job with the performance but IMO, they didn't do enough with the rest of the car to get it a 2nd look by potential buyers nor to people like me who see this car for what it really is - an IS350 clone with higher performance.

Performance enthusiasts often make more changes to their stock cars than Lexus did to the IS-F. And that may be the answer for some - to change the appearance of their IS-Fs.

I'm not down on the IS-F. I know Lexus will sell every one of them. But I still think (my opinion) that they dropped the ball and didn't go far enough with the exterior and the interior of the car to make it different (note that I didn't say "make it better"). The IS-F is clearly a better performer but drop the badging, the quad pipes and the side vent/skirt and it's an IS350. Good for some but not for me.

ISFfan

Thanks for the Awesome pictures

I cant wait until mine arrives at the dealership this wekeend!

LexFather

Oh really?

LexFather

335 interior


M3 interior


IS 350 interior


IS-F interior




They all seem about the same to me.

4TehNguyen

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by this logic, BMW drops the ball on the M line, Audi on the S/RS line, Merc on the AMG line, every single one of them is guilty of what you mentioned. Not sure why youre singling out something when everyone else does the exact same thing.

f=ma

nifty fact, i think the ISF has smaller more aerodynamic side mirrors.