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Old 07-22-08, 02:04 PM
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Exclamation 08 BMW M3 DCT vs 08 Lexus ISF

so peddle shift to peddle shift, which one is better? has anyone testdrove both and would like to share? anything counts here
Old 07-22-08, 02:26 PM
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I haven't drove both but I don't like them in the IS350 I had or the IS-F I have now. I shift with the shifter, paddle shifting sux when making turns etc. More of a novelty item if you ask me.
Old 07-22-08, 04:35 PM
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y are you shifting in the middle of a turn^^ ?
Old 07-22-08, 04:51 PM
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m3 dct is an actual manual car, whereas the IS-F is really an automatic that shift really fast

if this reviews said that the DCT is actually milllion times better than their SMGII from the previous Gen, then it's safe to say that DCT should be superior to the IS-F

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
Old 07-23-08, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by whlkev
m3 dct is an actual manual car, whereas the IS-F is really an automatic that shift really fast

if this reviews said that the DCT is actually milllion times better than their SMGII from the previous Gen, then it's safe to say that DCT should be superior to the IS-F

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
watch the dct is going to spend more time in the shop than anywhere else.
Old 07-23-08, 02:45 AM
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Lots of reasons to shift in a turn... If you are taking off from a stop and turning left would be on example. Many times I've hit the rev limit in a turn and had to use the shifter on the floor.
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The DCT looks promising but there have been complaints from first batch M3 DCT owners of malfunctioning transmissions. As with anything electronically controlled and newly introduced, it has some serious issues that need to be worked out. Wait for the next year of DCT M3's or just buy it in a manual.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149038

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157353

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157023

These aren't pervasive issues however I wouldn't risk it on a 70k dollar car.

I've driven the IS-F and the only "complaint" people have is the beeping... but if you are shifting properly you shouldn't worry about it. The down shift "triple beep" keeps you from over revving and upsetting the balance of the car. The upshift beep really only beeps at redline, and its good to have a reminder so you don't look like an **** bouncing off the rev limiter.
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I've heard the DCT feels very sluggish. From a dig especially. The gearing for the dct M3 is slightly different from the 6MT. It's a little taller in first gear but the 6MT will start to pull away from it at higher speeds.

Something to think about.
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Originally Posted by f=ma
watch the dct is going to spend more time in the shop than anywhere else.
They already are.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149038



Edit: sorry for the repost...I'm slow.
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hm...i'll drive my friends new m3 with dct to see how it is...i think he has broken it in now...so i'll let you guys know...haha
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Originally Posted by CrazyMPG
hm...i'll drive my friends new m3 with dct to see how it is...i think he has broken it in now...so i'll let you guys know...haha

please please do let us know how it drives compared to our F's by starting a new thread, ok?

appreciate it
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Originally Posted by calboy76
please please do let us know how it drives compared to our F's by starting a new thread, ok?

appreciate it
haha will do...i'll include pics and some vids if i can...maybe have him drive my is-f and have him give his opinions too...haha
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Default DCT or not to DCT

Originally Posted by whlkev
m3 dct is an actual manual car, whereas the IS-F is really an automatic that shift really fast
Does your M3 DCT have an actual clutch pedal you press and release? If not... it's an automatic also, just called a DCT instead...
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Originally Posted by AlexusAnja
Does your M3 DCT have an actual clutch pedal you press and release? If not... it's an automatic also, just called a DCT instead...
everyone's definition of a "manual" car is slightly different, just because its clutch is not controlled by the driver doesn't mean it's not there
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Originally Posted by whlkev
everyone's definition of a "manual" car is slightly different, just because its clutch is not controlled by the driver doesn't mean it's not there

Then I guess everyone's definition of an "automatic" must be different too...

I look at it this way, if you drive having to use both arms and both legs, then it's a manual (both arms not meaning one on steering wheel and one on cell phone, and both legs not meaning one of gas and one on brake, or out the window). If you only need one foot and one arm to drive the car, it's an "automatic"


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