ChuH

I get the impression the German test driver seems to like the IS-F better. Audio is in german with english subtitles. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzp7xHaC4NA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-OE6xgpxg

Chu..

gengar

Very nice, thanks for posting.

primecut

iTrader: (1)

Awesome vids. Haven't seen those before! Thanks. Pretty cool to see a German driver giving props to a Japanese car. I thought he would totally be biased towards the C63.

The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains, while the handling feel and the transmission in the F is better. I'm actually surprised that most comparisons don't mention that the C63's manual shifts are delayed significantly, as with most manumatic transmissions, which is definitely a drawback.

iceman1117

"These damn japanese cars and their beep warnings" LOL!... Good find!

CDNROCKIES

Very cool vids!

I can't imagine with the added hp and torque of the C63 what that additional body roll would feel like. I like the stability that the F provides.

bsteven43

What a great video ... that guy is a hoot and can drive the wheels off a car. He LOVES the car ... while some of these other tools from C&D and R&T complain about the transmission and suspension? WTF ... this guy is a race car driver and he's giggling like a school girl driving it ... what does that say?

8speed

Not sure what you mean by extra HP and displacement not giving expected performance? New C63's are running 12 flat at 118 mph 1/4 mile with a tune....add some aggressive rubber in the rear and you're easily in the high 11's which btw is faster than a ferrari F430 and puts the C63 closely into Lambo, 911 turbo, Z06, Viper territory!

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

timeToy

iTrader: (11)

Yeah, Tim definitely Loves the F !

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iTrader: (1)

LOL. I mean exactly what I said. 6.3L with 450hp and it still runs pretty much the same 0-60+1/4 times as its competitors. With that much hp over other cars in its class, you'd expect it to utilize it more efficiently. Why do you bother posting a tuned C63? I can post a tuned civic that runs 10s. Should I say that the new civic has great expected performance too?

foup

You guys probably noticed the kind of racketeering our fellow Europeans have to deal with. They mentioned 70K Euros in Germany, or $90K (last time I checked it was 76.5K Euros in France), for a similarly loaded car that sells at about $65K here with taxes included (in California).

What's funny is that the same is true for German cars sold here (Porsche, Mercedes, etc) they are 20..25% cheaper here!

8speed

Um no...there is no honda civic in the world with only a tune as a modification running 10's! Pretty much the same as competitors? It's the quickest car in it's class! End of story. The C63 was built to compete directly with the RS4 and M3. The benz has succeeded in this endevure and is faster across the board. I guess we agree to disagree, but your honda civic comment was completely inane and lacks credibility and merit. Can anyone else in here provide proof of a honda civic with only a tune running 10's? Thought so

rominl

iTrader: (4)

pretty nice review i think, he seems to be pretty objective and hit the points. i am surprised he feels more feedback and better balance on the is-f over the c63. and he also commented on the slow shifting on the c63 wow

Pair0Lexus

Best review since Tiff took it for a spin.

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iTrader: (1)

Ok, I think you completely misread my comment and then ran wild with it. Here what I said:

"The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains"

Here's what YOU think I said:
"Even when modded with extra HP, the C63 doesn't get expected performance gains"

Here's what I actually meant:
"In stock form, the C63 has extra HP and displacement compared to its competitors; However, it does not amount to expected performance gains over its competitors."

Given that I was directly responding to a video comparing a STOCK IS-F vs. a STOCK C63, I'm not sure how you can misunderstand my comment. I didn't see any tuned C63s in the video.. did you? Please read more carefully next time. Thank you.

And when you say that it's the quickest car in its class, I'm assuming you are talking about a tuned version as well. Otherwise, stock vs. stock, it's definitely NOT the quickest car.

8speed

Nope...I was talking about quickest in its class as in compared to the M3, RS4, and IS-F ($60,000 sticker, four door luxury sedan, big V-8 engine etc) excluding the new CTS-V because as we all know this car is significantly more expensive and built to demolish the current M5.

More proof incase you missed it the first time!
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

Again, a stock C63 running a 12.3 1/4 mile is quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile than every car in its class. I don't know how else to break the news to you unless you can show "PROOOOOOOF" of any of the afore mentioned cars putting up those numbers. back at you!

Nope:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

not quite:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

sorry, try again:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

And notice the C63's trap speed!!! Big numbers

Do you actually have proof to back up your statements or do you always spew nonsense!

Fact: C63 is the quickest car in its class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!