Video: Lexus IS-F vs. C63 AMG
#1
Video: Lexus IS-F vs. C63 AMG
I get the impression the German test driver seems to like the IS-F better. Audio is in german with english subtitles. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzp7xHaC4NA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-OE6xgpxg
Chu..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzp7xHaC4NA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-OE6xgpxg
Chu..
#3
Awesome vids. Haven't seen those before! Thanks. Pretty cool to see a German driver giving props to a Japanese car. I thought he would totally be biased towards the C63.
The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains, while the handling feel and the transmission in the F is better. I'm actually surprised that most comparisons don't mention that the C63's manual shifts are delayed significantly, as with most manumatic transmissions, which is definitely a drawback.
The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains, while the handling feel and the transmission in the F is better. I'm actually surprised that most comparisons don't mention that the C63's manual shifts are delayed significantly, as with most manumatic transmissions, which is definitely a drawback.
#6
What a great video ... that guy is a hoot and can drive the wheels off a car. He LOVES the car ... while some of these other tools from C&D and R&T complain about the transmission and suspension? WTF ... this guy is a race car driver and he's giggling like a school girl driving it ... what does that say?
#7
Awesome vids. Haven't seen those before! Thanks. Pretty cool to see a German driver giving props to a Japanese car. I thought he would totally be biased towards the C63.
The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains, while the handling feel and the transmission in the F is better. I'm actually surprised that most comparisons don't mention that the C63's manual shifts are delayed significantly, as with most manumatic transmissions, which is definitely a drawback.
The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains, while the handling feel and the transmission in the F is better. I'm actually surprised that most comparisons don't mention that the C63's manual shifts are delayed significantly, as with most manumatic transmissions, which is definitely a drawback.
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Last edited by 8speed; 11-07-08 at 02:47 PM.
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#9
Not sure what you mean by extra HP and displacement not giving expected performance? New C63's are running 12 flat at 118 mph 1/4 mile with a tune....add some aggressive rubber in the rear and you're easily in the high 11's which btw is faster than a ferrari F430 and puts the C63 closely into Lambo, 911 turbo, Z06, Viper territory!
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
#10
You guys probably noticed the kind of racketeering our fellow Europeans have to deal with. They mentioned 70K Euros in Germany, or $90K (last time I checked it was 76.5K Euros in France), for a similarly loaded car that sells at about $65K here with taxes included (in California).
What's funny is that the same is true for German cars sold here (Porsche, Mercedes, etc) they are 20..25% cheaper here!
What's funny is that the same is true for German cars sold here (Porsche, Mercedes, etc) they are 20..25% cheaper here!
#11
Um no...there is no honda civic in the world with only a tune as a modification running 10's! Pretty much the same as competitors? It's the quickest car in it's class! End of story. The C63 was built to compete directly with the RS4 and M3. The benz has succeeded in this endevure and is faster across the board. I guess we agree to disagree, but your honda civic comment was completely inane and lacks credibility and merit. Can anyone else in here provide proof of a honda civic with only a tune running 10's? Thought so
#12
pretty nice review i think, he seems to be pretty objective and hit the points. i am surprised he feels more feedback and better balance on the is-f over the c63. and he also commented on the slow shifting on the c63 wow
#14
Um no...there is no honda civic in the world with only a tune as a modification running 10's! Pretty much the same as competitors? It's the quickest car in it's class! End of story. The C63 was built to compete directly with the RS4 and M3. The benz has succeeded in this endevure and is faster across the board. I guess we agree to disagree, but your honda civic comment was completely inane and lacks credibility and merit. Can anyone else in here provide proof of a honda civic with only a tune running 10's? Thought so
"The extra HP and displacement in the C63 doesn't amount to expected performance gains"
Here's what YOU think I said:
"Even when modded with extra HP, the C63 doesn't get expected performance gains"
Here's what I actually meant:
"In stock form, the C63 has extra HP and displacement compared to its competitors; However, it does not amount to expected performance gains over its competitors."
Given that I was directly responding to a video comparing a STOCK IS-F vs. a STOCK C63, I'm not sure how you can misunderstand my comment. I didn't see any tuned C63s in the video.. did you? Please read more carefully next time. Thank you.
And when you say that it's the quickest car in its class, I'm assuming you are talking about a tuned version as well. Otherwise, stock vs. stock, it's definitely NOT the quickest car.
#15
Nope...I was talking about quickest in its class as in compared to the M3, RS4, and IS-F ($60,000 sticker, four door luxury sedan, big V-8 engine etc) excluding the new CTS-V because as we all know this car is significantly more expensive and built to demolish the current M5.
More proof incase you missed it the first time!
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Again, a stock C63 running a 12.3 1/4 mile is quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile than every car in its class. I don't know how else to break the news to you unless you can show "PROOOOOOOF" of any of the afore mentioned cars putting up those numbers. back at you!
Nope:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
not quite:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
sorry, try again:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
And notice the C63's trap speed!!! Big numbers
Do you actually have proof to back up your statements or do you always spew nonsense!
Fact: C63 is the quickest car in its class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More proof incase you missed it the first time!
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Again, a stock C63 running a 12.3 1/4 mile is quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile than every car in its class. I don't know how else to break the news to you unless you can show "PROOOOOOOF" of any of the afore mentioned cars putting up those numbers. back at you!
Nope:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
not quite:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
sorry, try again:
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
And notice the C63's trap speed!!! Big numbers
Do you actually have proof to back up your statements or do you always spew nonsense!
Fact: C63 is the quickest car in its class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by 8speed; 11-07-08 at 06:55 PM.