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Old 04-24-09, 05:21 AM
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Default 5.0L V8 versus 5.7L iForce V8

While driving this morning I was thinking, Lexus could have inserted the 5.7L iForce V8 off the Toyota Tundra. Would have the .7L in displacement made a difference in power and economy? Would there have been fitment issues? Would it have been a Lexus versus Toyota motor issue? What are your thoughts? Thanks for your opinions.

1. 5.0L

2. 5.7L
Old 04-24-09, 05:43 AM
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5.7 is geared for low end torque and lower rrpms, so no. Unless you wanted to tow something in the IS
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
5.7 is geared for low end torque and lower rrpms, so no. Unless you wanted to tow something in the IS
yep.. the 5.7 is made to be a truck engine.. for pulling boats and such.. its in the same family as the 5.0... but both are built for 2 totally different reasons..
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
5.7 is geared for low end torque and lower rrpms, so no. Unless you wanted to tow something in the IS
Interesting I didn't know that...
Old 04-24-09, 08:45 AM
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The 5.7L (3UR-FE) in the Tundra is in the same UR engine block family as the 5.0L (2UR-GSE) in the IS-F and the 4.6L (1UR-FSE) in the LS/GS. The heads are obviously different for each application.
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What do you think of increasing the displacing by boring out the motor to 5.7L?
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i don't think it's possible. cylinder walls will get too thin and eventually the engine blows. almost all displacement increasing kits on the market is a stroker kit.

the 5.7 has a smaller bore but a much longer stroke compared to the 5.0. this is ideal for torque but not rpm's.
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why not use a longer stroke than boring out the motor. That is probably what the difference in the motors are since they have different heads but the same block. I dont think that your going to get that much more horsepower but definitely more torque.
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Originally Posted by LexISguy
What do you think of increasing the displacing by boring out the motor to 5.7L?
Originally Posted by ElitistK
i don't think it's possible. cylinder walls will get too thin and eventually the engine blows. almost all displacement increasing kits on the market is a stroker kit.

the 5.7 has a smaller bore but a much longer stroke compared to the 5.0. this is ideal for torque but not rpm's.
Already been done by TRD on the FiveAxis Project: IS-F. They bored to 100 mm and stroked to 91.5 mm to yield 5.8L displacement.

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Originally Posted by javyLSU
Already been done by TRD on the FiveAxis Project: IS-F. They bored to 100 mm and stroked to 91.5 mm to yield 5.8L displacement.

Javier
Any specs on the horsepower/torque on the 5.8L?
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Nothing publicly available yet. Stay tuned.

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Originally Posted by javyLSU
Already been done by TRD on the FiveAxis Project: IS-F. They bored to 100 mm and stroked to 91.5 mm to yield 5.8L displacement.

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none of the above.............supercharged version of the 2UR-GSE
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Stroking to 91.5 drops red line to 6555 rpm for any long term reliability. Anything over that is asking for a seriously short service life. Besides that, a 6mm overbore in a Toyota engine? Wow. They've not made a block that full of meat for a very long time unless 5Axis have removed the existing bores and replaced them with a whole new bore and deck combination. This kind of mod means even shorter long term reliability. The power will be nice. The problems will be immense.
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FiveAxis didn't do the engine work. It was done internally at Toyota Motorsports Garage.


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